Scratch

yep. that is how you save it as java. (if saved first as a text file) and i even looked under properties and it said JAVA file.

there has to be a way to convert scratch to any type of file also, thinking logicly, a computer in the end reads everything as 1's and 0's. like 100101011111010100
so anything can be converted into anything even if you have to do a shi+load of programming

Eeeeexxxaccttllyy. It  made be a bit hard to understand, but changing the extension does NOT convert the format. It is much more complicated and involves changing the very code inside the files.

jon182 wrote:

yep. that is how you save it as java. (if saved first as a text file) and i even looked under properties and it said JAVA file.

there has to be a way to convert scratch to any type of file also, thinking logicly, a computer in the end reads everything as 1's and 0's. like 100101011111010100
so anything can be converted into anything even if you have to do a shi+load of programming

Actually, the computer processor (the thing that does the actual computing) reads it as it's native machine code, not binary. Also, converting the file by changing the extension is like trying to turn a cake into four-poster bed.

As stated above, there is not an automatic way to convert a scratch program to java.
although the online player is written in java.
But there might be a way to meet your goal.  what is it?
Why do you want it in Java?

To have a stand alone application?
To make it run faster?
To expand as a regular java application?

songhead95 wrote:

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Fail

EPIC FAILURE INDEED.

AddZero wrote:

songhead95, ThePCKid,
no, it's not a "epic failure"

abhijitgade007 has a valid question.  He bumped this to get an answer.  I hope we can help him.

I think they were referring to the original attempt to convert a .sb file to a java file merely by changing the extension.

Ok, then referring to the first post; I would call it a honest mistake, not an epic failure. 
Yes changing the extension doesn't work.  I believe I tried that when I was young. 

jon182 did bring up a good idea by tring to convert a scratch program to java.
It would be nice to expand into faster java applications.  Alice 3.0 http://www.alice.org/ is built on java, and you can edit drag and drop like scratch, or text, and I believe you can expand as a regular java application.
http://www.alice.org/community/showthread.php?t=757
It would be neat if scratch could do this too.

There are also programs that convert code from one language to another.
This could be done for scratch.

Last edited by AddZero (2010-05-18 19:29:25)

Are you guys talking about converting Scratch project files or the actual Scratch program itself? ... even if you converted Scratch to another language, would that really matter? ... Wouldn't it still be coded to create the same .sb files?
Doesn't that mean that you'd have to change the actual Scratch program's code itself?
Why not just use the code it was programmed in to decompile it to its original form and then change what it saves the .sb files as into a real code like Java or C++ or does it not work that way?
Would that mean an almost complete re-coding of Scratch, from scratch or is it simpler than that?

I'm curious about these sort of things.

So, does that mean anything made in Java is going to save in a Java code format or is it possible to make a Java-created app save its files as a C++ format or even some weird encrypted unknown format?

Are the .pt files completely different or just .sb files with a renamed ending?

i will explore the online java applet to see if i can reach some conclusions.
meanwhile, if anyone else is interested, you can find it at
http://scratch.mit.edu/static/misc/ScratchApplet.jar

EDIT
i downloaded it and extracted its files.
i found out that most commands are found in the commands.logo file, editable in any text editor such as notepad.
unfortunately, i'm not that good at java scripting.

summing it up, you can simply run an SB project in a java applet using the embed code but substituting the project path with the location of the SB file.

in other words, use the code

<applet id='ProjectApplet' style='display:block' code='ScratchApplet' archive='http://scratch.mit.edu/static/misc/ScratchApplet.jar' height='387' width='482'><param name='project' value='yourprojectname.sb'></applet>

to open it in an internet browser.

trying to figure out how to run it without the support of a browser.

Last edited by LS97 (2010-08-04 15:17:30)

i really wanted to do this so i could compare the languages and learn java, because i feel comfortable with scratch, and i wanted to transition.

AH HAH ok so the forum is:

http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=191

so you need to download 2 files
1. http://scratch.mit.edu/static/misc/ScratchApplet.jar
2. http://scratch.mit.edu/static/misc/soundbank.gm

and then i think you just put the .sb in the same folder as those files    i havn't tested it again yet but i think that is how it works... give it a go