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Ace-of-Spades wrote:

Post counts are needed for order! Lucario621 you're just jealous that you're post count is low!!! *teary eyed* 
       Just kidding. I have no input on this topic that hasn't
        already been said, but I am generally against it, at least until I pass everyone,
        then we can hide them all we want while I'm offically known as the highest
        poster on record.
       

He has more that you.    (Yes, I saw the hidden text.)

On a serious note, I think post counts really do more bad than good. Most of us get to know how experienced people on the forums are anyway.

I completely agree that post counts should be hidden.  Post counts shouldn't be seen be anyone (except maybe mods), including the user. All of the posts that don't contribute anything to a thread and are obviously just to raise post counts are annoying. Hiding post counts will lower spam (and frustration) dramatically.

scmb1 wrote:

I completely agree that post counts should be hidden.  Post counts shouldn't be seen be anyone (except maybe mods), including the user. All of the posts that don't contribute anything to a thread and are obviously just to raise post counts are annoying. Hiding post counts will lower spam (and frustration) dramatically.

I believe it would raise Frustration, not lower it.

Let's face it, the spam here will never die down unless certain users are banned, it has nothing to do with post counts (well sometimes it might).

@Lucario: Is there a way to vote down Suggestions?

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

scmb1 wrote:

I completely agree that post counts should be hidden.  Post counts shouldn't be seen be anyone (except maybe mods), including the user. All of the posts that don't contribute anything to a thread and are obviously just to raise post counts are annoying. Hiding post counts will lower spam (and frustration) dramatically.

I believe it would raise Frustration, not lower it.

Let's face it, the spam here will never die down unless certain users are banned, it has nothing to do with post counts (well sometimes it might).

@Lucario: Is there a way to vote down Suggestions?

It would definitely anger the trolls and people who only go on the forums to chat and spam, but it would greatly help the overall community. I agree this would *completely* cut down the spam - but it would definitely help, and considering we're going for baby steps, this is a good first step.

No, only admins can vote down suggestions (I think).

Chrischb wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

Call me crazy, make a flame war, but tell me what you guys think.

The usual response. 

Lucario621 wrote:

I sincerely think that the post counts should be hidden. This is because it seems like now, people are seriously more focused on making more spam and posts, rather than having quality discussions and having fun - it's becoming more of a TBG-feeling place.

OH YES YES YES YES YES Just do it in the TBG - preferably not right now though, Survivorduck's going to pass me soon and I need to try harder to stay ahead! 



Though yeah, I'm sure half the active posters come online to discuss their post count, chat, and the like - who here comes online to help others and share your opinion in threads?

Lucario621 wrote:

I always try to think, quality, not quantity. But it's hard for some people to do that with the post count staring them at their face. Although in a way, post counts may encourage users to make more posts on the forums, as to become a good contributor, it's doing more harm than good.

@First sentence: I used to say that a lot.    Agreed...

Lucario621 wrote:

The forums should be a place to help each other, and a place to collaborate, as a nice community - but it seems to be more of a 'spam-a-palooza' now.

Only in Miscellaneous. 

Lucario621 wrote:

Although part of the reason may be the "post count" thread by Jonathanpb in the misc forum; the whole origin is here.

It's a bit of fun at least. 
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Sure, hide them - it would be great! The problem is (the third time I've said this  ) (at least in my opinion) that a post count... is a bit fun to observe.    I treat mine like a plant and watch it go. But still... it would be worth it, hiding them - bye bye to all the post count chat and effort. 

Does this suggestion apply to the TBG too, though? 

Naturally, it would

Wolfie1996 wrote:

I agree somewhat... There was a discussion about this a while ago, and I believe that one of the reasons that it wasn't removed was because, when helping someone, a lot of people guage how experienced a Scratcher is by their post count, which can effect how they reply. Example scenario:

User A wrote:

How do you add an image to your signature?

Personally, I'd look to the post count to see how familiarised a Scratcher is with the forums before answering. If they had only a few posts, I would probably explain it in simpler terms than if they had a few hundred posts (eg - "go to profile, then to personality, and use [img]notarealwebsite.com/image.png[/url]. Click submit to view your signature", instead of "go to the signature edit page, and use the image tags")

However, I can certainly see the benefits of having no post count - how often I see posts that are just "lol", or something else that doesn't really add anything to the discussion!

I sort of support.

I love the idea of getting rid of the post count!  I firmly believe that it leads to spam.

We can certainly find other ways to indicate how experienced a person is...maybe just show the age of the account?

However, regardless of whether we decide to eliminate the post count or not, I have to agree that there has been way too much spam recently.  And everybody that uses these forums can help!  Please make sure that your topics are discussing useful topics and that your posts are adding useful information to the topics.  If you see somebody cluttering up the forums with lots of spam posts or topics, please report them so we can focus on improving the situation.  Thanks 

Paddle2See wrote:

We can certainly find other ways to indicate how experienced a person is...maybe just show the age of the account?

Would it work like the registration date? I'm w-a-y newer to the forums than it says. Dx

Chrischb wrote:

Though yeah, I'm sure half the active posters come online to discuss their post count, chat, and the like - who here comes online to help others and share your opinion in threads?

I do, although I'll meander into Miscellaneous sometimes.

I guess the main argument for keeping post counts is that it helps guide how experienced someone is. Unfortunately, it's not very accurate, and neither is join date. One way would be a system that lets users rank up helpful posts. The more your posts got upranked for being helpful, the higher some sort of ranking would be. It would encourage people to spam less and post more helpful comments.

Greatdane wrote:

Ok, I got a really novel idea here...

Hide only your post count so you don't know, but you can see the experience of others!

It does have its pros and cons...

Hmm... but people could create extra accounts, just to see a post count...

How about if it was so that you could only see post counts in certain forums, and only certain forums would change the post count? (eg - no post counts in I&M, but post counts in the main forums).

If that would work, I would be content ^^

Greatdane wrote:

Ok, I got a really novel idea here...

Hide only your post count so you don't know, but you can see the experience of others!

It does have its pros and cons...

Eh, it wouldn't really work because somebody else could just tell you what your post count is. And if you wanted to see your own post count, you could also just log off and go on the forums 

Forum post counts can be lowered, but they would have to be done manually. On every single member.
And yes, I agree about the misc's post count raising being taken out, but I don't think it can be done. How about moving misc to a separate forum?

Uh.... I'm not trying to turn this into a misc discussion on purpose

Last edited by Blade-Edge (2010-07-30 11:32:36)

Lucario621 wrote:

Blade-Edge wrote:

Forum post counts can be lowered, but they would have to be done manually. On every single member.
And yes, I agree about the misc's post count raising being taken out, but I don't think it can be done. How about moving misc to a separate forum?

Uh.... I'm not trying to turn this into a misc discussion on purpose

Having misc being moved to a separate forum, like the TBG, couldn't hurt...

I support this 100%.

But I'm still against the Removal of Post Counts.

You bring up a very interesting topic, Lucario, that many people have not thought a lot about. It is a hard decision, because there is a pretty equal number of pros and cons for each side. I agree, as long is there is some other some other indicator of Scratch user experience, like Paddle2See stated. It would have to be something that would be a lot less likely to brag or spam about. Any ideas?

Last edited by coka (2010-07-30 17:43:30)