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terminator68 wrote:

Ok jimmy, you are right! Sorry I argued! My apologies! I will stop, and be nice from now on. I realize I am trying to prevent something, yet I am continually arguing. Sorry again...

Why exactly are you trying to prevent the restart of the Olympics? It doesn't really have any negative impacts on anyone. It is an idea to help people.

terminator68 wrote:

Ok Jimmy-Jermaine, you are right! Sorry I argued! My apologies! I will stop, and be nice from now on. I realize I am trying to prevent something, yet I am continually arguing. Sorry again...

Lightnin wrote:

Thanks to everyone involved in this conversation for cooling things off in the recent posts. Peacemaking, and the reasoned discussion that it makes possible, is an important skill that the interwebs needs more of. 

We're discussing this issue now, and we will respond no later than tomorrow. Meanwhile, I ask that the people involved take a break, and step back for a little while to let things cool off. If you have something burning you need to say about the situation, you can use the contact us link.

Thanks, Lightnin  !

soupoftomato wrote:

Anyone who breaks the terms of use solely by themselves should be removed but never an entire team.

In the iamrpk case, if I had known the immature act he was trying to pull, I would have stopped him in a heartbeat.

As for the Aurochs, remove The-Stranger, but not the whole team. And then for the rest of the olympics we can be more relaxed.

Sure, that might have worked before blade and lon did what they did; Iamrpk asked to be disqualified instead of giving your team a penalty, but Muldova's members decided to dive right in and scream at authority - causing the whole team to be in violation of the ToU. Which of course, got the entire team booted. 

Everything works out logically. 

I'm on vacation and don't have Scratch with me, does that count as Lazy Member?

soupoftomato wrote:

illusionist wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Anyone who breaks the terms of use solely by themselves should be removed but never an entire team.

In the iamrpk case, if I had known the immature act he was trying to pull, I would have stopped him in a heartbeat.

As for the Aurochs, remove The-Stranger, but not the whole team. And then for the rest of the olympics we can be more relaxed.

Sure, that might have worked before blade and lon did what they did; Iamrpk asked to be disqualified instead of giving your team a penalty, but Muldova's members decided to dive right in and scream at authority - causing the whole team to be in violation of the ToU. Which of course, got the entire team booted. 

Everything works out logically. 

Shouldn't screaming at anyone be violation of ToU?

Or are my civil rights no  longer existent?

Yes, but to authority is more serious.

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Think of it like a little kid yelling at his/her sibling's, and then at the parents.

I'd think disrespect to a parent is more nasty right? 

joeisawesome wrote:

I'm on vacation and don't have Scratch with me, does that count as Lazy Member?

Certainly not! 

terminator68 wrote:

Hmm. What if we had a system of back-up people in a "Back-up Team". Perhaps they could fill in for the users that violate the terms.

That idea popped up awhile back... might be good for next year. 

soupoftomato wrote:

illusionist wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Shouldn't screaming at anyone be violation of ToU?

Or are my civil rights no  longer existent?

I'd think disrespect to a parent is more nasty right? 

Is the parent yelling?

No, the parent is trying to maintain sanity and work it out as well as solve the world economic crisis. 

soupoftomato wrote:

illusionist wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Is the parent yelling?

No, the parent is trying to maintain sanity and work it out as well as solve the world economic crisis. 

Does the kid have a valid point?

No. The kid forgot to read the whole story. 

soupoftomato wrote:

illusionist wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Does the kid have a valid point?

No. The kid forgot to read the whole story. 

I read the whole story actually. But I was referencing Team Auroch as the kid.

Did you read thoroughly? Did you understand the details? 

boinoinoi wrote:

but Muldova's members decided to dive right in and scream at authority - causing the whole team to be in violation of the ToU.

"Authority?"

Illusionist, this is just crazy.

boinoinoi wrote:

illusionist wrote:

but Muldova's members decided to dive right in and scream at authority - causing the whole team to be in violation of the ToU.

Didn't Jimmy multiple times say that his capital letters were a way of implying emphasis rather than increased volume?

I wasn't really referring to that- I mean't "screaming" more like "insulting", "uncivilly questioning", "disrespecting"... etc.

And the other members backed up Jimmy rather than "screaming" at you, not to mention that saying a disagreement with a moderator is worse than a disagreement with a normal member is just outright wrong... although moderators are chosen to protect Scratch from a disrespectful community, that doesn't mean their quarrels are more significant and that they should be treated any better than anyone else.

I could link to a post in which P2C answers this question, but it is in a rather 'inaccessible' place. 

Not to say that it would be in a bad way, but that one shouldn't have to think if the one they're arguing with is a moderator or not.

Really, insults to anyone is bad, but on these forums, the rules against insulting authority seem to be more enforced.

(don't ask me! I didn't write the rules!)

And about the original issue, you should note that many countries use an "ex post facto" type of law, meaning that laws passed only take effect to what happens afterward, i.e someone performing a legal task would not be effected if the practice was banned while they were doing it, meaning changing the rules to fit your argument would not help you.

In an effort to prove docile, I shall remember these wise words. 

I don't mean to get too involved, but I've been following this issue and I thought I really had to put my word in.

That is perfectly alright. 

Hmmm... seems like more arguing about who is right, and who is wrong. A certain amount of that can be helpful, but I'm not sure if these recent posts are.

I'm still trying to understand this issue better, but partly it seems to be complicated by the fact that Illusionist is wearing two hats at once - moderator, and Olympic organizer. The two seem to get tangled up in this argument.

soupoftomato wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

Illusionist is wearing two hats at once - moderator, and Olympic organizer. The two seem to get tangled up in this argument.

http://www.jamescalder.com/Favourite-Im … WYeu-M.jpg

Just Lightnin' the mood. I might not work because I am not an illusionist. If I knew how to play DaGamez I could do this better. I wish I could bharvey, he's awesome at this.

Sorry, but we all needed that.

It's not so funny the second time XD