Scratch

I just download the JCODER program and it works pretty well. But it does take a little setting up.

Firstly make sure you have the java JDK
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

First, go to new->project->java application

Then go next until it says JDK

Then click profiles->add

In general give the profile a name (any name will do)

Then in the home box enter the path to your java JDK folder
Mine was C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_06  but it could be different for you.

After you have the JDK thing set up the program should work fine.

archmage wrote:

I just download the JCODER program and it works pretty well. But it does take a little setting up.

Firstly make sure you have the java JDK
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

First, go to new->project->java application

Then go next until it says JDK

Then click profiles->add

In general give the profile a name (any name will do)

Then in the home box enter the path to your java JDK folder
Mine was C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_06  but it could be different for you.

After you have the JDK thing set up the program should work fine.

OH THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have the lists of syntax already, so tomorrow Ill give Java a go. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

archmage wrote:

I just download the JCODER program and it works pretty well. But it does take a little setting up.

Firstly make sure you have the java JDK
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

First, go to new->project->java application

Then go next until it says JDK

Then click profiles->add

In general give the profile a name (any name will do)

Then in the home box enter the path to your java JDK folder
Mine was C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_06  but it could be different for you.

After you have the JDK thing set up the program should work fine.

I've never used JCODER, so I can't be of much help there.  If you get JCODER working, fine.  If not, let me know and (assuming you are running under Windows) I will help you get back to basics and get running in a more fundamental manner that doesn't require you to install anything other then the JDK from Sun and a text editor of just about any brand.  I restrict that offer to Windows simply because I have never attempted to run Java on Linux or on a MAC.

dbal wrote:

dbal wrote:

archmage wrote:

I just download the JCODER program... .

I've never used JCODER, so I can't be of much help there.  If you get JCODER working, fine.  If not, let me know and (assuming you are running under Windows) I will help you get back to basics and get running in a more fundamental manner that doesn't require you to install anything other then the JDK from Sun and a text editor of just about any brand.  I restrict that offer to Windows simply because I have never attempted to run Java on Linux or on a MAC.

I just went and took a look at the JCODER site, looking for a free version, but  I was unable to find a free version. I may be wrong, but it appeared to me that the downloadable version of JCODER is an evaluation version that you must eventually pay for if you continue using it.

You should never have to pay for anything involving Java     Sun provides everything you need completely free of charge.

If JCODER isn't free, and if you want to use a high-level IDE, there is a free IDE named NetBeans available from Sun.  There is an intermediate-level IDE named JGrasp available for free from Auburn University.

And for true Java beginners, a very interesting free product designed mainly for learning is named BlueJ.  You can easily find NetBeans, JGrasp, and BlueJ by doing a Google search.

As far as instructional material is concerned, you shouldn't need to purchase any books.  You should find anything and everything that you might ever want to know about Java in my free online Java tutorials.  (See the link in my signagure.)

Well, in the link I included was the page to the free download of the earlier version. The current one requires payment, yes, but not the one I have. It said nothing anywhere about it being a trial, or needing payment. I will definitely check out your page!

Cyclone103 wrote:

archmage wrote:

Firstly make sure you have the java JDK
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

Which one? JDK update 6, the one with EE, the one with NetBeans? I need to know exactly which one. I literally only have the JCODER and have no other Java programs. Other than java player. By the way, do any of these include a compiler or a way to get it up on the internet?

If you are going to use JCODER as your IDE, you probably need to download and install the JDK, standard edition (SE) from the Sun site.  The enterprise edition (EE) is something that you won't need until you become an experienced Java programmer.  The Micro Edition (ME) is something that you won't need until you start writing cell phone programs and programs for other similar small devices.  The NetBeans version is something you won't need if you intend to use JCODER as your IDE.

The Java Development Kit (JDK) includes everything that you need to create, compile, and run Java applications and Java applets other than a text editor for creating your source code.  If you are using JCODER, it will include the text editor and should link directly to the compiler and to the "runtime environment" which is what you use to run a Java application locally. If you decide to switch to NetBeans instead of JCODER, it also includes an editor as well as many other features as well.

If you want to put your programs up on the Internet for others to view, you will need to:
1.  Have a website to put them on.
2.  Write your Java programs as applets, not applications.
3.  Create a short HTML file that links to the applet.
4.  Upload the HTML file along with the compiled Java file (class files) to the web site. Later, when you learn more, you can encapsulate the class files in a JAR file but that isn't a requirement.
5.  Publish the URL of the HTML file so that your friends can point to it with their browser.

Cyclone103 wrote:

Which one though? The "JDK update 6"?????? Java "SE Development Kit"? I need to know exactly which one. Ill ignore the Netbeans and EE.

This is the one that you probably need:
JDK 6 Update 6
The Java SE Development Kit (JDK) includes the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) and command-line development tools that are useful for developing applets and applications.

The only reason that I am hedging is because of the JCODER involvement that I am unfamiliar with.

You will also need the documentation package  which is a separate download that reads as follows:

Java SE 6 Documentation
Java SE 6 Documentation | Docs Installation Instructions | License

If you are tight on disk space, the documentation can also be viewed online.  However, access to the documentation is usually faster if it is installed locally.

archmage wrote:

I just download the JCODER program and it works pretty well. But it does take a little setting up.

Firstly make sure you have the java JDK
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

First, go to new->project->java application

Then go next until it says JDK

Then click profiles->add

In general give the profile a name (any name will do)

Then in the home box enter the path to your java JDK folder
Mine was C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_06  but it could be different for you.

After you have the JDK thing set up the program should work fine.

Archmage, you are awesome! Now alls I gotta do is visit the site provided by Mr. Baldwin and actually learn how to use this. Thanks Archmage and Dbal for all of your help!

I think I might after I am done testing JCODER. It is set up a bit like VB which is the second programming language I learned, right after Scratch. If the syntax used is similar, I could probably have a quality program in a week or so.

Cyclone103 wrote:

A few final questions. Is Java object-based, control-based, or other? Is there dynamic object duplication if it is object based? How do you edit the visual appearance of the applet, because I see nothing other than the code box.

Don't ask me questions about java applets, I only took a course in beginners java and making java games applets is pretty complicated. I am sure dbal could help you out though.

Last edited by archmage (2008-06-19 20:02:30)

I'm gonna try using Java soon... Once I'm done with Scratch, I'm gonna move onto C++, which, I've heard, is pretty similar to  Java. Now, to find a good compiler... For mac... And PC... or neither... or just one or the other

coolstuff wrote:

I'm gonna try using Java soon... Once I'm done with Scratch, I'm gonna move onto C++, which, I've heard, is pretty similar to  Java. Now, to find a good compiler... For mac... And PC... or neither... or just one or the other

Be aware that C++ is more difficult than Java.

Although I don't use a MAC, as I understand it, everything that you need to program using Java on a MAC is available for free from Sun.

Cyclone103 wrote:

Oh! That explains why in "World of Sand" all the sand is not there. I would imagine they would like to have it there to begin with! It is probably coded as one object per type of sand, and somehow duplicated.

I'm not familiar with "World of Sand"