Scratch

fanofcena wrote:

well i agree the Hoch Poch that will be caused if we rank em on the projects

but can we rank em on how long they are here

ranks can be like

1. New scratcher
2. Scratcher ( Somewhat used to scratcher)
3. Old member (people like hmm who are for long hmm me !)
4. Good Scratcher : ( Guyz like 08jackt , jonathan etc)
5. Great Scratcher ( For guyz like Rhy and archmage)

These can be based on algorithms like

Rank Point = Sum(Rankpoint_allprojects)+Time_spent_here;

define Rankpoint_AllProjects = ( no of loveits/no of views ) * 100% //% of ur projects being loved ..

that will enhance the competition and make em do b8r

also it will give all the scratchers an idea of what are they and they can actually  go and ask for help from the good ones (: watcha say?


IT was really pain in speaking it all

If that would happen, Doody would be new scratcher, even if she is 8 months here already.

And why did you post in C++ code? Scratch uses PHP...

markyparky56 wrote:

meew0 wrote:

fanofcena wrote:

well i agree the Hoch Poch that will be caused if we rank em on the projects

but can we rank em on how long they are here

ranks can be like

1. New scratcher
2. Scratcher ( Somewhat used to scratcher)
3. Old member (people like hmm who are for long hmm me !)
4. Good Scratcher : ( Guyz like 08jackt , jonathan etc)
5. Great Scratcher ( For guyz like Rhy and archmage)

These can be based on algorithms like

Rank Point = Sum(Rankpoint_allprojects)+Time_spent_here;

define Rankpoint_AllProjects = ( no of loveits/no of views ) * 100% //% of ur projects being loved ..

that will enhance the competition and make em do b8r

also it will give all the scratchers an idea of what are they and they can actually  go and ask for help from the good ones (: watcha say?


IT was really pain in speaking it all

If that would happen, Doody would be new scratcher, even if she is 8 months here already.

And why did you post in C++ code? Scratch uses PHP...

The first bit looked like Spreadsheet code actualy... (MS Exel)
The last bit maybe...
And why would Doody be a new scratcher?

She gets about 50 views but only 1-2 loveIts. 1/50=0.02, that's very few. If I would set the ranking values, I would say 0 - 0.05 is new scratcher, 0.05 - 0.15 is scratcher, 0.15 - 0.2 is old member, 0.2 - 0.4 is good scratcher, and 0.4 - 1 is great scratcher.

markyparky56 wrote:

meew0 wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

The first bit looked like Spreadsheet code actualy... (MS Exel)
The last bit maybe...
And why would Doody be a new scratcher?

She gets about 50 views but only 1-2 loveIts. 1/50=0.02, that's very few. If I would set the ranking values, I would say 0 - 0.05 is new scratcher, 0.05 - 0.15 is scratcher, 0.15 - 0.2 is old member, 0.2 - 0.4 is good scratcher, and 0.4 - 1 is great scratcher.

But all those love its add up. Also do the views. Plus, its in percentages, not 0.blah's You can convert that - 0.02 is 2 %.

Hello See That I Addded Time_spent_on_scratch Variable There????

Fanofcena, your system may have been well thought out, but it won't work. You can't say one person is better then the other officially, even if it may be true. It's unspoken. Besides, this will be like putting a huge sign on people that says "I suck at Scratch"

fanofcena wrote:

Hey there remember what Marky said ??? DO U REMEMBER??????? HMM HE SAID NO RANKING TILL U ARE SOMEWHAT OLD SCRATCHER AND NEW SCRACTHER DOESENT MEANS THAT U SUCK ! (ONO)

So it the system evaluates you, then puts you into one of the few categories, ranging from Scratcher to Experience scratcher, before you are ranked you are simply classed as New Scratcher,
Ok, lets see, it goes:
New Scratcher
Scratcher
Old Member
Good Scratcher
Experience Scratcher

fanofcena wrote:

There we go awesome idea!!!!!!! Paddle2see repond here plz

It could be any scratch team though, doesn't just have to bePaddle2see.

The suggestion is a bit different, though... 

Blade-Edge wrote:

fanofcena wrote:

Hey there remember what Marky said ??? DO U REMEMBER??????? HMM HE SAID NO RANKING TILL U ARE SOMEWHAT OLD SCRATCHER AND NEW SCRACTHER DOESENT MEANS THAT U SUCK ! (ONO)

I don't know what you're trying to tell me.

He's saying that I suggest, a while back, about new memebers not being ranked for the first few weeks after joining.

fanofcena wrote:

OMG i didnt thought anyone would understand my collapsed english LOL .. but COngrats to markyyyyy he did .. :$ ( WHen i read it the second time even i was unable to find the meaning out of it ) ..

Btw scratch team plz respond 

I've talked to you enough to get the basic meaning out of what you say, most of the time anyway.

Chrischb wrote:

But that would make users get all fiercely competitive... and it doesn't seem right to have some users above others. 

Fierce competition is already applied at people with popularity(100-500) versus the others (1-50). A handful of users(say, 100, 250?), no matter what color of the rainbow of popularity, has a disorder that if stressed, triggers a life-threatening reaction. Maybe some users that want popularity fake that they have a stress-triggered disorder.

Last edited by frogger3140 (2010-07-07 08:40:48)

I wrote this in another thread, but I think it applies here too:

Yahoo has design patterns for website makers, where they advise others based on their experience.  Here's what they say about user points and ranking:

Yahoo wrote:

Points

Maintain and display a cumulative count of the number of points user has earned within a community.

The points generally come from performing specific activities on the site.

Points are best-awarded to congratulate performance rather than merely to acknowledge activity.

What Problem Does This Solve?
In some communities, participants want a tangible measurement of their accomplishments for personal satisfaction and to make comparisons with other competitors.

When to Use This Pattern
Use this pattern when the community is highly competitive, and the activities that users engage in are competitive in nature (e.g., player-vs-player contests, or coaching a fantasy football team).
Points are generally discouraged, except in cases where the fundamental, primary purpose of the community is competition, such as fantasy sports or games.

Specifically, don't use this pattern when
- The activities that users engage in are not competitive in nature (e.g., writing recipes, or sharing photos).
- The awarding of points might demean or devalue the activity that they're meant to reward. By pinning an arbitrary incentive value to an activity, you may unintentionally replace a user's satisfying intrinsic motivation with a petty extrinsic one.
...
On the Yahoo! network, Ranking and Leaderboards are generally discouraged, except in cases where the fundamental, primary purpose of the community is competition, as with Fantasy Sports or Games.

read more here and here.  I think the same applies for Scratch, which I think should be encouraging collaboration instead of competition.

We do already have top viewed, top loved, and I think those do more to make a few users popular, and is like a ranking system for the entire site, instead of helping scratchers find projects they might like, and other scratchers with similar interest that will be more likely to help each other out.  (cough, cough, favetags, cough...
Although FaveTags may encourage some competition among some of the more popular tags.  But I think, the community will branch out into more specific tags they like, and will move the focus from wanting to be popular to the whole site, to just people interested in similar things... where there will be less competition and more collaboration, hopefully.)

Last edited by JTxt (2010-07-07 13:50:51)