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Great Idea!    I liked those great mock-ups, as it always helps understand things better!

I support! 

AddZero wrote:

Thanks for reading and the good ideas.

This idea is not about GOOD projects or scratchers getting attention/recognized/fame.
(That may happen sooner for helpful/diligent scratchers because they can focus other people's attention/help where they need it, but that's not the primary goal.)

This idea is about:
- lowering the number of clicks and typing to ask for help.
- making it easy to find other people that need help.
- making it easy for newbies and veterans to let others know they need help and where they need it.
- making it more efficient to reciprocate helpful comments.


Because people can see your request for help next to your name, by leaving helpful comments, more will see that you need help and be more likely to help you.  (so I don't think moderation/karma points are needed for this.)

I think "help" could also be, "try out my new project I just finished". 
If I look at and leave a helpful comment on yours you'll be more likely to look at and comment on mine.

paddle2see wrote:

...being able to focus other's attention on a specific project for any given Scratcher.   Kind of like being able to feature your own work...in a limited sense!

Right!

paddle2see wrote:

What if you could assign attributes to a project either as it was being submitted or after it was on the web?  You could set the ones needing help to "Needs help" and they might show up in a special queue either on the front page or elsewhere.  They might also float to the front of your My Stuff area and have some kind of visual flag near their thumbnail image.

Good idea, there may also be other attributes/flags.


I hope this will be as simple as possible to implement and for scratchers to use.

archmage, juststickman, illusionist,
Yeah, 'karma points' done right would assist in moderation and recognizing 'helpful' users.  (slashdot is a good example.) But it's not quite the idea I'm suggesting here.

billyedward,
Those are good steps.  But it's not always obvious to new users and a slow process to help/get help.  People you help may or may not be online or even want help.  And the 'show and tell forum' is not intuitive or dead simple to find.  People that are already popular and know the system get most of the attention and help.

Hopefully this idea reduces the "getting help" steps to:
1. Flag your project as needing help and type a short question or request.
2. Help others in the recently flagged projects list so that your question/request gets more exposure.
As you comment, your question and a link to your project is put next to your name.
If you're helpful, people will be more likely to click and help you.
3. Profit. 

Again, this is about making it easier to help and get help.

Thanks!

Never thought of it this way.

I agree, only one project per user at a time.
Perhaps they can only submit/resubmit a project to the top of this page once an hour (or day?)  I'm guessing projects will go through this very fast, a project may be on the front page of this for a minute or two.  (It might be nice to have a faceted solr search... to narrow down by tags, but not necessary.  people need to help others to get more attention to their request. as they help people on the front page of this list, more will see their request.)

That's about the same as my idea. So we can have a row.

Last edited by wei2912 (2010-06-24 10:42:23)

Great idea! However, it would be hard to prevent spammers who just say they need help, when in fact they are just playing the crowd for views.

MasterOfDeception wrote:

Great Idea, but I think that to deal with spammers there should be a page like this:

Request:
[ ] Graphics
[ ] Movement
etc...

And there should be (on a subpage) a way to find projects with a particular "Help Tag" and there should also be a flaging  system if someone puts a help tag on a project that shouldn't be there so spammers can't just do that with any of their projects just to get views.

Great idea! something like this will people find projects they can help... but I think this would quickly turn into a ton of categories.  (we do already have tags, this could be integrated... wrote more below.)

Like I wrote above, people can write a short request for help/attention.  ( "Gravity help please", "beta shooter game, test!")  this plea will be their signature (and link to their project), when they leave comments on other people's projects that request help... So as you help others, more people see that you need help... and what kind of help you need.

Also this short plea for help/attention will be by their project on the page of projects that need help.


Yeah!  Now I see how this idea can integrate with the FaveTags idea.  Thanks!   

You can go to the list of projects that need help/attention, but on the side will list different tags, (games, simulation, art, racing, doll dress up) you can click a tag to filter this list to see only games that are requesting help/attention.  (like people's personal bookmarks)

FaveTags, would help prevent spamming to those categories, because tags are voted on by the community.  if someone adds a popular tag that doesn't apply, then people can vote up a tag that does apply then vote down tags that don't in order to keep their favorite tag pages clean.

This is about rewarding helpful behavior with help...
Putting people that need help/attention now, together.

Feedback please?

iCode-747 wrote:

Your ideas are great, if I haven't said that before.

This would be an epic feature for 2.0, and would probably help a lot of new scratchers who would be stuck get unstuck... (if that makes sense)

Thanks! 
I hope this would help.

If you all agree, please vote.
If not, let's discuss or suggest something better so I can vote on it. 

Last edited by JTxt (2010-10-25 15:56:55)