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juststickman wrote:

calebxy wrote:

Violent video games and programs do make people more violent.

Please experiment using non-insane people.

You know how there's a story about a murderer being obsessed with GTA? So it's GTA's fault that the murderer was born with slight mental issues? Stop blaming violent games for things that happened before the game was introduced.

Of course, it's not that extreme, but such influence does exist.

It's a proven fact that frequent exposure to violent games or films affects human behavior, which is most noticeable in children. It's human nature to copy and adjust to everything they observe - in one way or another. Saying that this is not true is like saying that it's not possible to passively influence human behavior at all. >.>

I admit that I've never played any violent games in my whole life, except for strategic games and one semi-violent shooter-like-somewhatish game (Portal). Yeah, that's not violent at all, I know. xD But when I was a kid I used to watch my cousin play a really violent and gory shooter game and I remember noticing a slight change in my feelings and how I reacted to things. So yeah. >.>

Agreed. sometimes there must be violence, but really I don't find it neccessary, since all it is it war, murder, etc. All this has to stop. The world will lose its value if we don't do something.

calebxy wrote:

Violent video games and programs do make people more violent.

Any Studies that arent biased? Any studies AT ALL? give us PROOF and we might belive it.
if you go around shooting you're mouth off with out any good proof you might as well walk around with a bell and a sign that says "Yell at me" Also, i have played some violent-ish video games and i HATE fighting. also, please tell me you arent one of those people who thinks playing some Mario will make you go on a homicidal rampage.

Last edited by PW132 (2010-06-17 18:56:49)

soupoftomato wrote:

PW132 wrote:

calebxy wrote:

Violent video games and programs do make people more violent.

Any Studies that arent biased? Any studies AT ALL? give us PROOF and we might belive it.
if you go around shooting you're mouth off with out any good proof you might as well walk around with a bell and a sign that says "Yell at me" Also, i have played some violent-ish video games and i HATE fighting. also, please tell me you arent one of those people who thinks playing some Mario will make you go on a homicidal rampage.

First of all, no one actually believes it to that extreme. However, you will have more tolerance to seeing people in pain, etc.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/180886.php

okay, i got a little bit carried away there.    but anyway, i GUESS that is an effect, but any violence caused by the person tested? no. but yes, that is ONE effect.

Kind of like how in the movie Avatar, the Na' Vi didn't have a word for "lie" because they never lie. Dr Grace Augustine taught that to them. 

I don't usually watch or play things that are violent, but I sometimes watch tails doll videos. I'm violent because I'm constantly made fun of, everywhere I go. I feel like... Mt.Vesuvius.
I punch, Kick etc. my friend, because he's really sarcastic with me a lot. And I'm jealous because I didn't come up with that comment; we're both wicked sarcastic.
The fact that I'm insane might contribute to the violence. Heh.

Star_the_fox wrote:

I don't usually watch or play things that are violent, but I sometimes watch tails doll videos. I'm violent because I'm constantly made fun of, everywhere I go. I feel like... Mt.Vesuvius.
I punch, Kick etc. my friend, because he's really sarcastic with me a lot. And I'm jealous because I didn't come up with that comment; we're both wicked sarcastic.
The fact that I'm insane might contribute to the violence. Heh.

Tails Doll vids? Ah, come on. I really doubt THAT would cause you to be violent. Also, i am addicted to sarcasm. yay.

Last edited by PW132 (2010-06-17 23:07:56)

Oh, joy. hat we REALLY need is some mre sarcastic people; It gives the forums SO MUCH MORE to rave about. (Sarcasm)
I've been violent since kindergarden, and I've only herd about the stupid thing since JANUARY.

calebxy wrote:

PW132 wrote:

calebxy wrote:

Violent video games and programs do make people more violent.

Any Studies that arent biased? Any studies AT ALL? give us PROOF and we might belive it.
if you go around shooting you're mouth off with out any good proof you might as well walk around with a bell and a sign that says "Yell at me" Also, i have played some violent-ish video games and i HATE fighting. also, please tell me you arent one of those people who thinks playing some Mario will make you go on a homicidal rampage.

I did give you proof: Studies have shown ( Paul Ekman's studies) that little children who watched a violent program, (it was actually Tom and Jerry) and were then taken into a room and left there for a few minutes, were more violent to a doll that was hanging from the roof (or something like that) than those who didn't watch it.

Ok, then answer...
-How many children were there?
-How did they make sure that the children didn't have the same personality?
-How violent were the children, what did they do?

calebxy wrote:

I can only answer the last two questions, as I don't have the book I read that from. (But I have reserved it from the library, so I will have it soon.) There were two groups of children. One of them watched Tom and Jerry and the other didn't. There was a doll hanging from the ceiling in a room. And after one group watched Tom and Jerry, they were taken to that room and left there for a few minutes. They were more violent to the doll (eg. hitting it,) than the children who hadn't watched it. And when psychologists are doing experiments like this, the only way to make sure the children don't have the same personality is to get lots and lots of people to take part.

Where were the lots and lots of people from, where they friends?
And how many people were there?

calebxy wrote:

I can only answer the last two questions, as I don't have the book I read that from. (But I have reserved it from the library, so I will have it soon.) There were two groups of children. One of them watched Tom and Jerry and the other didn't. There was a doll hanging from the ceiling in a room. And after one group watched Tom and Jerry, they were taken to that room and left there for a few minutes. They were more violent to the doll (eg. hitting it,) than the children who hadn't watched it. And when psychologists are doing experiments like this, the only way to make sure the children don't have the same personality is to get lots and lots of people to take part.

Unless they were really little, most older kids don't need a program to destroy a doll.

It's good fun (and not a human). 

That's why psychiatrists use them for angry people.

soupoftomato wrote:

That's why psychiatrists use them for angry people.

Actually, Paul Ekman is a psychologist, not a psychiatrist.