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#51 2008-06-02 01:18:13

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

This goal is hard and almost impossible to achieve. The better the Scratcher, the more complex the code, the more harder it is to read. Each person has their own programming style.
Of course, really skilled and mature programmers, like Jens, Paddle2See or Archmage can understand other peoples' code well, but for me, Coolstuff or you, Dingdong, it might be quite hard.
If this were ever to happen you would just spend all your either time trying to read each others' code or explaining how it works.


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#52 2008-06-02 08:42:39

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

I agree with MyRedNeptune. And although Scratch is very good at making simple, small games I can't see it making anything decent without major lags. No offense or anything to the great Scratch programmers. Also tell me what you want me to make and I'll give it a go... I've been looking for a project.

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#53 2008-06-02 11:20:22

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

Ok, I have worked before on a colaborative flash project and this is how it worked. Each person/small team created a simple minigame which could easily be executed from the main menu. A popular colaborative flash game would be 4 second fury.

Just because you have a ton of people helping doesn't mean you can create a single great project, in fact it would be more difficult if everyone is tring to work on a single game.

I reccomend that you try making a game like 4 second fury or another minigame collection. Each minigame could be triggered by a broadcast and another broadcast would return the user to the main menu. If you do that if you do that it would be pretty simple tomake  a fun game. But making many people work on the same body of code is just asking for trouble.

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#54 2008-06-02 11:46:32

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

I'm pretty good, but I don't think I qualify

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#55 2008-06-02 13:04:41

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

i can make some sort of good games, but i can make 3D images, check out this! http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/piplupquaza/177324 its not about how good the game is, but the 3D images. i will help find sprites if needed too. if you dont think the game i linked to isn't good enough just tell me to do a sample project for you. I'm hoping you will let me in, it would be nice. Thank you(even if i'm not in thanks anyway)!!! http://www5d.biglobe.ne.jp/~aoi-k/scribble/scrib251.gif Look at the little dudes dance!!! (thats not the 3D or sprites i was talking about!)


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#56 2008-06-02 13:17:19

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

piplupquaza wrote:

i can make some sort of good games, but i can make 3D images, check out this! http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/piplupquaza/177324 its not about how good the game is, but the 3D images. i will help find sprites if needed too. if you dont think the game i linked to isn't good enough just tell me to do a sample project for you. I'm hoping you will let me in, it would be nice. Thank you(even if i'm not in thanks anyway)!!! http://www5d.biglobe.ne.jp/~aoi-k/scribble/scrib251.gif Look at the little dudes dance!!! (thats not the 3D or sprites i was talking about!)

I could help anyone else who likes doing graphics! http://www5d.biglobe.ne.jp/~aoi-k/scribble/scrib251.gif Look at the little dudes dance!!!


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#57 2008-06-02 14:01:53

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

archmage wrote:

Ok, I have worked before on a colaborative flash project and this is how it worked. Each person/small team created a simple minigame which could easily be executed from the main menu. A popular colaborative flash game would be 4 second fury.

Just because you have a ton of people helping doesn't mean you can create a single great project, in fact it would be more difficult if everyone is tring to work on a single game.

I reccomend that you try making a game like 4 second fury or another minigame collection. Each minigame could be triggered by a broadcast and another broadcast would return the user to the main menu. If you do that if you do that it would be pretty simple tomake  a fun game. But making many people work on the same body of code is just asking for trouble.

Hey, 4 second fury was my Idea!!!

Ah well, he will prbably listen to you anyway.

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#58 2008-06-03 17:09:04

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

I think this is a pretty creative idea  smile

Many visual artists collaborate by creating something small (like a drawing) and pass it along for people to add on to.  The next person adds a component (perhaps feathers, sequins, etc), then passes it along to the next person.  You could probably do something like this in Scratch.  Someone would need to help coordinate who passes what off when and to whom.

OR

Perhaps you could have everyone contribute a single sprite, and figure out a way to combine them all together?

For example, if you had everyone create enemy sprites, you could program your game to randomly select any of their creations to appear as your enemy characters...thus allowing Scratch members of all skill levels to participate.

You could just determine the specs for what you need (example: animal characters with additional costumes for walking), resize as needed, and import into your game.

Just some thoughts!

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#59 2008-06-03 17:24:28

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

May I join? I can make rudimentary enemies in Blender, and have expertise in scrolling and debugging. I can fix almost any script, so long as I know what the problem is. I can set a position for an enemy even if it is offscreen, like in a scroller and I can make basically anything you request.


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#60 2008-06-03 18:39:21

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

hmmm... you need a little bit more skill in scrolling and stuff, but I don't know how to grade you as a artist, make something in blender then present it to me and I'll see if you can join, also if you make a "good" scroller game you could be a dual programmer and artist


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#61 2008-06-03 18:41:01

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

also if you're good blender, I need teaching on the program (the scratch master needs help!) I going to be moving on to 3D games soon (I might come back to scratch and make a game once in awhile) so I'll need to know how to use blender


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#62 2008-06-03 20:31:09

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

We could make a Mario Party game. That would be easy to work on with several people all at once.

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#63 2008-06-03 20:33:39

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

great idea, it would lots of graphical detail so it would take awhile to make


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#64 2008-06-04 16:34:43

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

I can make a 3d mario pretty easily, mostly oblong spheres and other stuffs. Ill give it a shot.


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#65 2008-06-10 12:01:28

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

dingdong wrote:

we'll see, but remember this means truly stuff of unbelievable work, basically near my quality

You're quality???????  It isn't nearly as good as some, a lot of people are batter than you(no offense). This is a bad post because if you want it to happen don't turn people down, all this is is a big company, and by turning people down you're saying they are not good, and everyone is great in there own way, if you wanna turn people down it should say"Why don't some good scratchers come together and make a compony"


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#66 2008-06-10 12:06:32

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

Jman720 wrote:

dingdong wrote:

we'll see, but remember this means truly stuff of unbelievable work, basically near my quality

You're quality???????  It isn't nearly as good as some, a lot of people are batter than you(no offense). This is a bad post because if you want it to happen don't turn people down, all this is is a big company, and by turning people down you're saying they are not good, and everyone is great in there own way, if you wanna turn people down it should say"Why don't some good scratchers come together and make a compony"

lol, I was gonna say he's full of himself, but I like Dingdong and didn't want to make him an enemy, so I didn't


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#67 2008-06-10 15:49:50

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

Bluestribute wrote:

Jman720 wrote:

dingdong wrote:

we'll see, but remember this means truly stuff of unbelievable work, basically near my quality

You're quality???????  It isn't nearly as good as some, a lot of people are batter than you(no offense). This is a bad post because if you want it to happen don't turn people down, all this is is a big company, and by turning people down you're saying they are not good, and everyone is great in there own way, if you wanna turn people down it should say"Why don't some good scratchers come together and make a compony"

lol, I was gonna say he's full of himself, but I like Dingdong and didn't want to make him an enemy, so I didn't

I think he is full of himself because he made the first split screen game.


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#68 2008-06-10 15:50:58

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

Jman720 wrote:

Bluestribute wrote:

Jman720 wrote:


You're quality???????  It isn't nearly as good as some, a lot of people are batter than you(no offense). This is a bad post because if you want it to happen don't turn people down, all this is is a big company, and by turning people down you're saying they are not good, and everyone is great in there own way, if you wanna turn people down it should say"Why don't some good scratchers come together and make a compony"

lol, I was gonna say he's full of himself, but I like Dingdong and didn't want to make him an enemy, so I didn't

I think he is full of himself because he made the first split screen game.

Yeah, that could be it. I've been trying to figure something out in secret, but no luck so far


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#69 2008-06-10 16:32:43

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

Jman720 wrote:

Bluestribute wrote:

Jman720 wrote:


You're quality???????  It isn't nearly as good as some, a lot of people are batter than you(no offense). This is a bad post because if you want it to happen don't turn people down, all this is is a big company, and by turning people down you're saying they are not good, and everyone is great in there own way, if you wanna turn people down it should say"Why don't some good scratchers come together and make a compony"

lol, I was gonna say he's full of himself, but I like Dingdong and didn't want to make him an enemy, so I didn't

I think he is full of himself because he made the first split screen game.

I am pretty sure that bigB made a split screen game before dingdong did. I don't see it as that big of a deal anyways.


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#70 2008-06-10 16:33:36

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

archmage wrote:

Jman720 wrote:

Bluestribute wrote:


lol, I was gonna say he's full of himself, but I like Dingdong and didn't want to make him an enemy, so I didn't

I think he is full of himself because he made the first split screen game.

I am pretty sure that bigB made a split screen game before dingdong did. I don't see it as that big of a deal anyways.

ME neither. That's why I made one at midnight to show how simple tey CAN be, not how simple they ARE


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#71 2008-06-10 16:39:15

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

Bluestribute wrote:

archmage wrote:

Jman720 wrote:

I think he is full of himself because he made the first split screen game.

I am pretty sure that bigB made a split screen game before dingdong did. I don't see it as that big of a deal anyways.

ME neither. That's why I made one at midnight to show how simple tey CAN be, not how simple they ARE

Ya, I agree.


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#72 2008-06-10 16:58:00

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

Hey, I made the first multi-directional Scrolling platformer. Does that count as something new?

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#73 2008-06-10 16:58:53

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

Bobby500 wrote:

Hey, I made the first multi-directional Scrolling platformer. Does that count as something new?

Yes, but your not full of yourself


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#74 2008-06-10 18:41:06

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

Bobby500 wrote:

Hey, I made the first multi-directional Scrolling platformer. Does that count as something new?

I made this before your made your game.
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/archmage/116000

It can be counted as a multi-directional scrolling platformer I guess.

Still, it doesn't really make a difference who made what first. Odds are someone you have never heard of knew how to do it a long time ago.


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#75 2008-06-11 02:00:48

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Re: what if all the great scratchers got together and made a game?

Can I join I made a two player scroller tutorial which I think is the first of it's kind, I made a health bar I'm an excellent sprite ripper  smile

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