Scratch

Bluestribute wrote:

dbal wrote:

Bluestribute wrote:

Yeah, I guess I am making progress. Oh, I sent you my first Alice Creation- a frog

I didn't see it. How did you send it?

An attachment. It was My_World_Alice or something. How should I send it?

What email address did you send it to?

dbal wrote:

Bluestribute wrote:

dbal wrote:

I didn't see it. How did you send it?

An attachment. It was My_World_Alice or something. How should I send it?

What email address did you send it to?

richardbaldwim or something. The one on the bottom of your alice site. You probably deleted it. It has no letters or numbers (the email address) and the subject is Bliuestribute:Alice or something

Bluestribute wrote:

dbal wrote:

Bluestribute wrote:

An attachment. It was My_World_Alice or something. How should I send it?

What email address did you send it to?

richardbaldwim or something. The one on the bottom of your alice site. You probably deleted it. It has no letters or numbers (the email address) and the subject is Bliuestribute:Alice or something

You're going to have to be a little more precise than that if you want me to be able to find it.  My 30-day spam folder currently contains 198,172 messages and my 30-day junk folder currently contains 31,804 messages.

Send it to the email address at the bottom of the following page:
http://www.dickbaldwin.com/toc.htm

Include the word Java in the subject line and then tell me here the exact text in the subject line so that I can search for it.

Or, the easiest thing would just be for you to register as a member of the Alice forums and post your Alice world there.  That way, I won't have access to your email address.

Bluestribute wrote:

But Alice isn't letting me sign up, otherwise I would

I have no idea what the problem might be there.

Maybe someone else on the forums who uses a MAC can help you through the process of producing YouTube-compatible videos.

Bluestribute wrote:

Java and Bluestribute <--- that's the subject dbal

OK, I salvaged it from the spam folder.  I'll take a look at it as soon as I finish scanning the remaining posts on the forum.

dbal wrote:

Bluestribute wrote:

Java and Bluestribute <--- that's the subject dbal

OK, I salvaged it from the spam folder.  I'll take a look at it as soon as I finish scanning the remaining posts on the forum.

That's an awesome 3D frog.  I made a couple of minor changes to make it start up smoother.  Keep at it and soon you will be making really cool 3D games.

Keep trying to solve your YouTube problem so others can see your 3D creations.

Dbal, is flash part of Java? and also, what is possible with a Java programming. I tried to read your tutorials on it but it seemed way to complex. I am not going to switch languages for another year or so but I was just wondering so I could know the basics before I start.

archmage wrote:

Bobby500 wrote:

Dbal, is flash part of Java? and also, what is possible with a Java programming. I tried to read your tutorials on it but it seemed way to complex. I am not going to switch languages for another year or so but I was just wondering so I could know the basics before I start.

Flash is not part of java but the syntax is similar to java. The possibilities with java are far beyond the possibilities of scratch but there is a lot of stuff you have to learn. If you just want to make games and stuff like that then you should try flash actionscript. It is much easier to make games with flash than it is with java and overall the language is simpler. The main drawback is that the program for making flash is pretty expensive.

I think that archmage probably did a better job of answering your question than I could have done because I know essentially nothing about Flash.  (I tend to stick to the free development environments like Java, Panda3D, Python, JavaScript, and of course Scratch.)

You can do just about anything with Java that you can do with any modern programming language.  However, there are those who believe that the same program written in Java, C#, and C++ will run faster when written in C++.  On the other hand, C++ is quite a bit more difficult than either Java or C# when you get into the advanced material so that is the tradeoff there.  Also, Java tends to be much less dependent on the operating system than C++.  C# is totally dependent on the operating system and the programming vehicle for C#, Visual Studio from Microsoft, is definitely not free.  The last time I checked, C# will only run under Windows (but there are rumors that a Linux version is being developed outside of Microsoft).

As I have mentioned before, in my opinion, the next logical step beyond Scratch is Alice, which is much easier than Java and is also a lot more fun than Java, at least until you become an expert Java programmer.  For example, writing a 3D game in Java using something named Java3D is extremely difficult but is relatively easy with Alice.

This is 3 years old, but still hasn't been implemented. 

Yes, this would be very nice to have. I would be interested in learning many different languages other than Python.    Maybe a "Squeak" area would be useful for those Scratch Mod development threads. Great ideas.

thecrazyguy wrote:

Misc.
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Noooooooooooooooooooooo it's too good for Miscellaneous 

SimpleScratch wrote:

More than specific programming constructs, I do worry that there might not be friendly and welcoming environments for people who want to learn more advanced languages.

As well as the above, I believe that if someone was able to come up with a Scratch type drag and drop blocks in a simple editor, which then generated a plain text file to be sent to any "real" compiler (automagically if possible    ) - then it would be much easier to transistion.

Once the programmer was used to it, they'd just stick to editing directly in the new language so I wouldn't expect them to actually use the block type editor for very long.

This might seem to make developing such a tool a waste of time but I believe it would get young programmers over a barrier and once such as tool had been written for say VB - it would be trivial to make it work for C or any other text based programming language.

regards

Simon

I could develop that tool directly in Scratch, so people wouldn't have to install anything
(if they have Scratch)