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#1 2010-04-30 17:30:31

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questions about scratch mods

here are some of my most important questions for making a scratch mod.
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1.) What are the pros and cons of modding the source code instead of the scratch app?

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The source code is designed for modding, so most of the copyright-infringing parts are already removed. It also has the required help section for Scratch and the share menu already removed.

2.) If the source is better, can I still get in using the shift-click method?

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3.) How does the source code run? Does the user need scratch, or can the source code run on its own?

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The source code needs three things: the .changes file, the .image file, and the .exe file (the VM). Optionally, a .ini file can remember certain startup settings.

4.) If modding the original scratch is better, how big is the scratch filesize?

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5.) How do I get scratch on a USB drive? Is it as simple as  copying and pasting the file into it good  enough?

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6.)if you have a web server on your own computer, can you make it so that you can add it onto the server?

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Well, that's it. I won't ask for block coding because there's enough topics about that to look for, and I want more experience acctually programming, not just taking other people's code.

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#2 2010-05-01 09:44:48

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Re: questions about scratch mods

1. The Scratch App is better, because it is easier to use and save.

2. The Scratch App is better.

3.It uses Squeak.

4. I don;t know.

5. Yes.

6. Dropbox works. Servers aren't necessary.

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#3 2010-05-01 10:25:20

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Re: questions about scratch mods

Billybob-Mario wrote:

1. The Scratch App is better, because it is easier to use and save.

2. The Scratch App is better.

3.It uses Squeak.

4. I don;t know.

5. Yes.

6. Dropbox works. Servers aren't necessary.

1. Wrong

2. Wrong

3. Kind of, it technically uses a squeak VM, or virtual machine. The image is the most important file, as it tells the VM exactly what exists in the squeak project.

4. It's not better, so this doesn't really matter

5. Basically... you need the image and the VM, plus the DLLs if you want the camera and presentation mode to work.

6.I don't really know what you mean by this, if you mean "Is it possible to make a project upload server if you have a web server on your computer?" (which doesn't make sense anyway, because your computer would then BE a web server, not have one on it, or you are just saying that some hosting company is hosting a site of yours) then the answer would be kind of, because you need something like ScratchR to do that.

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#4 2010-05-01 17:02:39

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Re: questions about scratch mods

To both of you, I asked what is good and bad about modding the source code or the scratch app. I will decide for myself which is better.
@nXII: about #3, does that mean the source ALONE can run like the scratch app or does it need a seperate VM?
oh, and since both of you dissagreed on mostly everything, nobody gets on best answer yet.

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#5 2010-05-01 18:25:33

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Re: questions about scratch mods

16Skittles wrote:

To both of you, I asked what is good and bad about modding the source code or the scratch app. I will decide for myself which is better.
@nXII: about #3, does that mean the source ALONE can run like the scratch app or does it need a seperate VM?
oh, and since both of you dissagreed on mostly everything, nobody gets on best answer yet.

The source code is designed for modding, so most of the copyright-infringing parts are already removed. It also has the required help section for Scratch and the share menu already removed.

There isn't anything good about modding the app, so don't pick that or you will be cast into a pit of shame among Squeak programmers forever.

#3 - The source code needs three things: the .changes file, the .image file, and the .exe file (the VM). Optionally, a .ini file can remember certain startup settings.

I didn't really disagree with Billybob-Mario on #3, merely corrected him/her. #4 you can't say was disagreed upon because I was the only one to answer.


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#6 2010-05-02 09:51:28

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Re: questions about scratch mods

nXIII wrote:

#3 - The source code needs three things: the .changes file, the .image file, and the .exe file (the VM). Optionally, a .ini file can remember certain startup settings.

does that come with the source? or will I need to find other files?


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#7 2010-05-02 10:54:23

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Re: questions about scratch mods

16Skittles wrote:

6.)if you have a web server on your own computer, can you make it so that you can add it onto the server?

What do you mean by that?


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#8 2010-05-02 11:07:37

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Re: questions about scratch mods

like the scratch site, where you can click "share" and it would show up on a web site. but if i use the source code, it won't matter.


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#9 2010-05-02 11:28:51

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Re: questions about scratch mods

16Skittles wrote:

like the scratch site, where you can click "share" and it would show up on a web site. but if i use the source code, it won't matter.

Ah ha! That requires some serious modding.


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#10 2010-05-02 11:56:16

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Re: questions about scratch mods

markyparky56 wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

like the scratch site, where you can click "share" and it would show up on a web site. but if i use the source code, it won't matter.

Ah ha! That requires some serious modding.

And programming skillz (with a z)


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#11 2010-05-02 12:13:11

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Re: questions about scratch mods

16Skittles wrote:

5.) How do I get scratch on a USB drive? Is it as simple as  copying and pasting the file into it good  enough?

Yes, all you have to do is drag the Scratch folder into the USB folder. You could also just duplicate/clone/copy it and drag the copy into the USB folder. I have done this with Scratch, and many other applications to get an application from my family's desktop, to my laptop and vice-versa.


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#12 2010-05-05 17:08:09

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Re: questions about scratch mods

16Skittles wrote:

nXIII wrote:

#3 - The source code needs three things: the .changes file, the .image file, and the .exe file (the VM). Optionally, a .ini file can remember certain startup settings.

does that come with the source? or will I need to find other files?

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#13 2010-05-06 11:16:32

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Re: questions about scratch mods

16Skittles wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

nXIII wrote:

#3 - The source code needs three things: the .changes file, the .image file, and the .exe file (the VM). Optionally, a .ini file can remember certain startup settings.

does that come with the source? or will I need to find other files?

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#14 2010-05-06 18:29:18

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Re: questions about scratch mods

markyparky56 wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

does that come with the source? or will I need to find other files?

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where's that?

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yikes
edit:found it. but it's Vista, so I can't tell which is which:/
^Smiley fail..."  hmm

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#15 2010-05-19 19:47:54

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Re: questions about scratch mods

henley wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

5.) How do I get scratch on a USB drive? Is it as simple as  copying and pasting the file into it good  enough?

Yes, all you have to do is drag the Scratch folder into the USB folder. You could also just duplicate/clone/copy it and drag the copy into the USB folder. I have done this with Scratch, and many other applications to get an application from my family's desktop, to my laptop and vice-versa.

You still haven't added this.


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#16 2011-07-26 10:49:32

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Re: questions about scratch mods

How do you make a .changes file for your mod?


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#17 2011-07-26 13:17:24

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Re: questions about scratch mods

5. actually, it's simpler. you just redownload scratch except you make the destination E:\[your mod name here] (or whatever your USB drive letter is).


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