Scratch

Lol you don't need a lesson in honesty you need a lesson in sneakiness. Next time make the account using a proxy site or with another computer network and use a temporary email.

[removed by Forum Moderator] is completely anonymous and from whats on the site I bet they would have to do a lot more than write an essay. That site is easily one of the worst places you can go to on the internet and that includes the entire internet.

PS: it wasn't a joke, if the Dad's reasons are unreasonable and he is just being ignorant I would just join the site anyways. I would also demand a logical explanation as to why I cannot use the website before doing anything.

Last edited by Paddle2See (2010-05-12 04:46:57)

archmage wrote:

Lol you don't need a lesson in honesty you need a lesson in sneakiness.
<snip>
if the Dad's reasons are unreasonable and he is just being ignorant I would just join the site anyways

Wow.   Why would you counsel somebody to disobey their parents?  They might have very good reasons for putting restrictions on their child's internet activities.  They are probably concerned about the safety (emotional and/or physical) of certain sites.

As a parent, I used to worry a lot about what my kids were seeing on the web...and who might be trying to take advantage of them in some way.   They are older now so I don't worry as much...now I worry more about my mother, who recently fell prey to one of those "please give us your account information" schemes and ended up having her Facebook account stolen.  What a mess. 

The truth of the matter is that there are dangers of various sorts out on the web and it is the parents job to keep their children protected from them.  Part of that protection should be education about the dangers.  Another part might involve restricting the areas and activities that the child can do until they are old enough and educated enough to navigate them safely.

I hardly think his dad's reason's are unreasonable, because I believe he could have ample reasoning to take all his internet access.  The internet is not something that's neccassary to life like food.  You talk as if there's absolutely nothing wrong with the internet, but believe me, the statistics would shock you.  Even his having access to the internet is a gift, don't try and make him do the wrong thing with it.

I can understand such punishment if you are 12 or so...Actually, how old are you?

Why punish a kid for using the internet? Unless it's something like "here-you-can-buy-drugs.com". Does the situation have something to do with religion maybe?

*looks at notifications*

Looks like I was bad, but to be fair I didn't start up the conversation about that particular website.

Now, I wasn't trying to be a troll when I made those posts. I find that some parents, who have grown up without internet make rash generalizations about websites based on sensationalist news stories or something similar. All parents are not as tech savvy as P2S. I say this because I know some people who won't let their kids join a site like this one because they don't/won't understand the internet. Obviously if the parents are well informed and give good reasons about why a site is bad then its best to listen to them but not all parents are like this.

Last edited by archmage (2010-05-12 13:40:42)

archmage wrote:

*looks at notifications*

Looks like I was bad, but to be fair I didn't start up the conversation about that particular website.

Now, I wasn't trying to be a troll when I made those posts. I find that some parents, who have grown up without internet make rash generalizations about websites based on sensationalist news stories or something similar. All parents are not as tech savvy as P2S. I say this because I know some people who won't let their kids join a site like this one because they don't/won't understand the internet. Obviously if the parents are well informed and give good reasons about why a site is bad then its best to listen to them but not all parents are like this.

*feeds*

Some people are more protective of their kids on the internet than others. Let thy create a scale (it will fail, but never mind)

0 Bad Websites -------------- 5 Chatting Online---------------- 10 Extremly protective

See, I told you it would fail!

archmage wrote:

*looks at notifications*

Looks like I was bad, but to be fair I didn't start up the conversation about that particular website.

Now, I wasn't trying to be a troll when I made those posts. I find that some parents, who have grown up without internet make rash generalizations about websites based on sensationalist news stories or something similar. All parents are not as tech savvy as P2S. I say this because I know some people who won't let their kids join a site like this one because they don't/won't understand the internet. Obviously if the parents are well informed and give good reasons about why a site is bad then its best to listen to them but not all parents are like this.

Yep, some parents are sometimes overprotective, but there is a lot of pretty lewd, shocking, and nasty stuff on the internet, and I think that's why parents like to play things safe. I think it's absolutely reasonable to let parents "ration" internet usage. It's just best to trust your parents; it's safer that way.

cocoanut wrote:

archmage wrote:

*looks at notifications*

Looks like I was bad, but to be fair I didn't start up the conversation about that particular website.

Now, I wasn't trying to be a troll when I made those posts. I find that some parents, who have grown up without internet make rash generalizations about websites based on sensationalist news stories or something similar. All parents are not as tech savvy as P2S. I say this because I know some people who won't let their kids join a site like this one because they don't/won't understand the internet. Obviously if the parents are well informed and give good reasons about why a site is bad then its best to listen to them but not all parents are like this.

Yep, some parents are sometimes overprotective, but there is a lot of pretty lewd, shocking, and nasty stuff on the internet, and I think that's why parents like to play things safe. I think it's absolutely reasonable to let parents "ration" internet usage. It's just best to trust your parents; it's safer that way.

Its not just being overprotective, its refusing to understand how the internet works. Some parents make generalizations about the internet based on random incidents like a facebook based abduction or something like that. Seeing as how the Dad and the kid's friend were visiting the website it was probably something harmless like youtube or facebook. I think that ideally parents should allow kids to use sites like these but make sure to check up their account and what they are doing.

I did that with Deviantart and a lot of other things. I'm really sneaky about it though. It hurts to keep a secret D:

archmage wrote:

cocoanut wrote:

archmage wrote:

*looks at notifications*

Looks like I was bad, but to be fair I didn't start up the conversation about that particular website.

Now, I wasn't trying to be a troll when I made those posts. I find that some parents, who have grown up without internet make rash generalizations about websites based on sensationalist news stories or something similar. All parents are not as tech savvy as P2S. I say this because I know some people who won't let their kids join a site like this one because they don't/won't understand the internet. Obviously if the parents are well informed and give good reasons about why a site is bad then its best to listen to them but not all parents are like this.

Yep, some parents are sometimes overprotective, but there is a lot of pretty lewd, shocking, and nasty stuff on the internet, and I think that's why parents like to play things safe. I think it's absolutely reasonable to let parents "ration" internet usage. It's just best to trust your parents; it's safer that way.

Its not just being overprotective, its refusing to understand how the internet works. Some parents make generalizations about the internet based on random incidents like a facebook based abduction or something like that. Seeing as how the Dad and the kid's friend were visiting the website it was probably something harmless like youtube or facebook. I think that ideally parents should allow kids to use sites like these but make sure to check up their account and what they are doing.

That seems like a good solution to me as well...but to get to that point you need to discuss it with Dad and maybe educate him as well.  Going behind his back is likely to backfire in the end (there are no secrets on computers) and damage any trust he has in you.

archmage wrote:

[removed by Forum Moderator] is completely anonymous and from whats on the site I bet they would have to do a lot more than write an essay. That site is easily one of the worst places you can go to on the internet and that includes the entire internet.

PS: it wasn't a joke, if the Dad's reasons are unreasonable and he is just being ignorant I would just join the site anyways. I would also demand a logical explanation as to why I cannot use the website before doing anything.

I love my dad, and he is not unreasonable.

It was MY fault for not being honest. He wasn't mad about me making the account, he was mad about me LYING to him.

I think that being sneaky is NOT a good trait to have, especially if you use it for bad reasons.

BTW, I'm a girl whoever said his xD