Scratch

hmnwilson wrote:

Thanks for posting this.

What I'd like to see on the forums is a "warning meter" type system. Depending on how bad the offense is the warning meter would go up some, and once it reaches a certain point you get blocked for only a few days to a week. They would gradually get longer from there, so there would be no three-month blocks on a first offense (see MidnightWarrior's post).

I think something like that would work. Suggestions are welcome.

That's an interesting idea.... It's been really helpful to read some responses to this and similar threads that suggest that Scratchers really don't understand why and in what situations we block accounts. No wonder there is a lot of fear and confusion!

re: 3 month block: I think you mean 1 month block, and in this particular situation, it was not a first offense, or without warning. 

I should say a little more: There are only a few Scratch Team available to moderate the community. If we unblock someone once after they promise to be respectful, and then they break that promise, how can we trust them?  How can you tell if they really do want to change, or if they are just asking to be unblocked so they can say more mean stuff, or troll? It's a tough problem - one that I hope we can find better solutions to someday. But for now, if we don't feel strongly that we can trust someone who has lied to us in the past, we can't afford to keep unblocking them. 

Lightnin wrote:

hmnwilson wrote:

Thanks for posting this.

What I'd like to see on the forums is a "warning meter" type system. Depending on how bad the offense is the warning meter would go up some, and once it reaches a certain point you get blocked for only a few days to a week. They would gradually get longer from there, so there would be no three-month blocks on a first offense (see MidnightWarrior's post).

I think something like that would work. Suggestions are welcome.

That's an interesting idea.... It's been really helpful to read some responses to this and similar threads that suggest that Scratchers really don't understand why and in what situations we block accounts. No wonder there is a lot of fear and confusion!

re: 3 month block: I think you mean 1 month block, and in this particular situation, it was not a first offense, or without warning. 

I should say a little more: There are only a few Scratch Team available to moderate the community. If we unblock someone once after they promise to be respectful, and then they break that promise, how can we trust them?  How can you tell if they really do want to change, or if they are just asking to be unblocked so they can say more mean stuff, or troll? It's a tough problem - one that I hope we can find better solutions to someday. But for now, if we don't feel strongly that we can trust someone who has lied to us in the past, we can't afford to keep unblocking them. 

Oops, misread it as three months... and I guess I just assumed everything else. D:

And you're right about that last part. I might have to re-think this...

Last edited by hmnwilson (2010-05-03 19:25:40)

DaGamez wrote:

He did a second account to ask you mods to unblock him because he thought nobody actually read the contact us messages... xD

Wow - everyone seems to think that! I guess it's because it's true of most websites these days. Not ours though - we read every one, and respond to those that are reasonable and respectful. There are situations when we stop responding - but that's only after sending a message to explain why (i.e. if someone has already been blocked several times, and we can no longer trust them we say so and explain that we won't be responding to anymore messages.)

So if we haven't responded to a contact us message: please be patient! There is always lots to do, so sometimes it may take us to a day or two to respond. 

Lightnin wrote:

DaGamez wrote:

He did a second account to ask you mods to unblock him because he thought nobody actually read the contact us messages... xD

Wow - everyone seems to think that! I guess it's because it's true of most websites these days. Not ours though - we read every one, and respond to those that are reasonable and respectful. There are situations when we stop responding - but that's only after sending a message to explain why (i.e. if someone has already been blocked several times, and we can no longer trust them we say so and explain that we won't be responding to anymore messages.)

So if we haven't responded to a contact us message: please be patient! There is always lots to do, so sometimes it may take us to a day or two to respond. 

I hope you eventually do unban lonwol!
If you do, tell me and I'll notify him.

If you use an IP ban for a first offense (which I know rarely happens) will you be able to access the Scratch Team, assuming the offender doesn't know their e-mail.

soupoftomato wrote:

If you use an IP ban for a first offense (which I know rarely happens) will you be able to access the Scratch Team, assuming the offender doesn't know their e-mail.

Yep, the IP ban page is basically the same - with a contact form built in.

It's sad how so many Scratchers are ignorant of other people's feelings and rights.

I once said in a thread to respect others, and one person (not saying names) basically said  "what" at the be respectful line and continued to be disrespectful.

I've been on Scratch since 2007, and the amount of disunity in the community just sort of surprises me.

Like I said before, anybody can do what they want to with scratch, it is their own right.

Last edited by mkolpnji (2010-05-03 21:47:35)

mkolpnji wrote:

It's sad how so many Scratchers are ignorant of other people's feelings and rights.

I once said in a thread to respect others, and one person (not saying names) basically said  "what" at the be respectful line and continued to be disrespectful.

I've been on Scratch since 2007, and the amount of disunity in the community just sort of surprises me.

Like I said before, anybody can do what they want to with scratch, it is their own right.

Sing with me!

We shall overcome! We shall overcome! We shall overcome someday! Ohh, deep in my heart, I do believe, we shall overcome, someday.

This is scary... 

I'm glad to still be here.

TheSaint wrote:

Besides, it was cloggin up Miscellanoius with useless thread. 

Enough that I could have made a sweater from it. 

Once there were eight or so on the first page... 
And half were closed.

Why has the scratch team been mean and banned tons of my favorite scratchers?

rocket101 wrote:

Why has the scratch team been mean and banned tons of my favorite scratchers?

Whether you realize it or not, that person has given the Scratch Team a reason to ban them. The Scratch Team isn't mean, more-so the person they ban was at one point.

coolstuff wrote:

I feel that a way to halt the confusion, at least for a little bit, would be to tell them up-front why they were banned.

In most cases, that's simple to do - so we do it. In some, as in the recent situation, it's a bit trickier. It's not quite as easy as "You are banned for saying bad words!" or something like that. It's more like you have been blocked for slowly getting more disrespectful of certain groups of Scratchers over time, and fanning flames. So there are some cases when we block Scratchers with a simple message in order to have a longer conversation with them in which we explain why they were blocked.