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Yay! My Project! 

fg123, I Think It's Only Fair To Post A Second Link Being The One MathWizz Posted. 

Cant wait to upload my taoj2 project. waiting months 4 this!

markyparky56 wrote:

dav09 wrote:

Cant wait to upload my taoj2 project. waiting months 4 this!

Thing is, it doesn't run online, and it can't be downloaded...

I Know. But You CAN Open It In BYOB If You Have It. 

evilmonkey wrote:

WHAT IS BYOB!!? I tried finding what it meant online but it only says that it stands for "bring your own beverage"

yeah, BYOB is a play on...acronyms?

anyway, it stands for Build Your Own Blocks, and because its confined strictly to the Scratch community im not surprized that an online search got you nothing.

basicly BYOB (created by Jens (who is awesomeness incarnate) )  lets you create custom blocks.

Last edited by AmoebaMan (2010-04-27 22:27:23)

I hate to be a killjoy, but this violates the Scratch source code Terms of Use.

Scratch Source Code ToU wrote:

you cannot implement the ability to upload projects to any MIT Scratch website (currently, http://scratch.mit.edu)

Last edited by fullmoon (2010-05-25 08:42:41)

bharvey wrote:

fullmoon wrote:

I hate to be a killjoy, but this violates the Scratch source code Terms of Use.

Scratch Source Code ToU wrote:

you cannot implement the ability to upload projects to any MIT Scratch website (currently, http://scratch.mit.edu)

Right, there's no question of uploading BYOB projects to the Scratch site.  (Not until they decide to use BYOB as Scratch 2.0 anyway. :-) ) [Humor impaired people please note smiley in previous sentence!]  But one thing I'd like to see is the ability to set up private sharing sites, so that in particular students in my class can share with each other.  This isn't the same thing as mesh networking; it'd be an uploading site, like the Scratch one, but local to a small community.

Hey, that would be cool! I'd love to help code the site if it came to that...

fullmoon wrote:

Hey, that would be cool! I'd love to help code the site if it came to that...

nXIII wrote:

Well, when I finish PantherOnline I might make it open-source (It's an upload site, namely for Panther projects)

Perfect!  nXIII will make PantherOnline and fullmoon will modify it to handle BYOB projects!  You're both hired. 

nXIII wrote:

EDIT: to be a bit more constructive, does anyone know a free hosting site that supports PHP and isn't 000webhost?

Er, I use HostHelpers.com, but I can't say that I recommend it...a bit too much downtime.

As it happens, I have a somewhat incomplete file-upload service I'm building at http://stuff.flyte-engine.org. Although HostHelpers appears to have decided that it doesn't want to support MySQL anymore... 

Last edited by fullmoon (2010-05-25 21:15:03)

Once Its Complete, I Will Upload It To Stuff (wich is incomplete thing im refferring to)

I just tried to upload to it, it didnt work

do you need to put the full path?

Greatdane wrote:

It's a really great idea to make a BYOB upload website.

Maybe I can make some graphics? ...

The technology is the least of it.  Running the Scratch upload site is a permanent ongoing expense for the Scratch Team.  They pay people to monitor the site, encourage the great projects, delete the inappropriate ones, decide (over and over) what constitutes inappropriateness, run the Design Studio, etc.  It's also a legal liability, e.g., if someone uploads a libelouss project.

That's why what I proposed wasn't a big Scratch-like BYOB upload site, but rather, including the technology to set up local upload sites easily.  These can be behind the school firewall, simplifying things a lot both technically and legally.

Imho the only constructive way to get a big BYOB upload site is to get BYOB's ideas into Scratch 2.0.  Last time I talked with them, they were pretty solidly committed to "some form of" procedure definition, not necessarily our design, but still uncertain about including lambda.

I view this as even more positive than it sounds.  It's building custom blocks that opens the Pandora's box of projects on the Scratch site that people other than the author can't understand.  Adding lambda to that, I think, is all upside, and eventually they'll be convinced.  The great acceptance of BYOB3 among the more connected (i.e., forum-reading) Scratchers will help, I'm sure.

The exact details of the design don't matter so much, even though I immodestly think our design of the Block Editor is both understandable and flexible.  As for lambda, either you have it or you don't; there aren't so many details to argue over.

Panther are, I think, more willing than we to set up shop separately from Scratch.  That's appropriate, since the prospect of projects on the Scratch site that can potentially infect Scratchers' computers with malware is probably more of a risk than MIT can or should take on.  [I think it's great that Panther is a mostly-UK project, giving me an opportunity to try out the appealing but exotic British style of coupling a singular collective noun with a plural verb!    ]

nXIII wrote:

What about me? (the person who coded it all)

C'mon, I did say "mostly"!  Four out of six, right?  Anyway. by definition there aren't any exotic linguistic constructs in American English. 

P.S. How do you have time to follow all these fora and still get any programming done?  Let alone real life.  I keep noticing that like 2/3 of all posts combined seem to be you!