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Lucario621 wrote:

But eh... let's not get too far off-topic...

Yeah. Why are we talking about Hetalia anyway?

BWOG wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

But eh... let's not get too far off-topic...

Yeah. Why are we talking about Hetalia anyway?

Isn't it obvious?

soupoftomato wrote:

littletonkslover wrote:

BWOG wrote:

Yeah. Why are we talking about Hetalia anyway?

http://aspergers.dasaku.net/wp-content/ … -27-29.jpg

Isn't it obvious?

You are the real immature one here.

I've noticed ;D

bharvey wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

while adding the 21 values (7 letters times 3 possible signs after it)

Indeed, you could use CROSSPRODUCT to get what you're after here: CROSSPRODUCT [LIST <A> ... <G>] [LIST <#> <b><>].  But that isn't actually how I'd do it.  I'd see if LETTER 1 OF the note is A-G (using a list to hold the A-G), and see if ALL BUT FIRST LETTER OF the note (that's a block in the tools sprite) is in LIST <><#><b>.

That'll be faster than looking through a list of length 21.

Ooh! I never would have thought of that! 

Another thing I like about this new BYOB is the "zebra coloring" - how blocks that are nested within the same color change color so you can identify them apart. I think that's really cool  .

Plus, sprites can go out of bounds! Zomg! 

littletonkslover wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

Plus, sprites can go out of bounds! Zomg! 

That's good for animation 

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>.>

I am making an advanced file system, like in OSs. I was already planning on doing it, but with the release of BYOB 2.99 and all its advanced list features, I thought I try it there. BUT WAIT, DON'T TELL ME HOW TO DO IT! I'll (try) to figure it out myself!!!

Just curious, but is there any possibility of the full release of BYOB 3 including multi-dimensional arrays? That would be pretty useful in some projects, and you'd have to write a whole lot of code to make it happen in Scratch or BYOB.

shadow_7283 wrote:

I am making an advanced file system, like in OSs. I was already planning on doing it, but with the release of BYOB 2.99 and all its advanced list features, I thought I try it there. BUT WAIT, DON'T TELL ME HOW TO DO IT! I'll (try) to figure it out myself!!!

Just curious, but is there any possibility of the full release of BYOB 3 including multi-dimensional arrays? That would be pretty useful in some projects, and you'd have to write a whole lot of code to make it happen in Scratch or BYOB.

Don't worry - I'll tell you how to do it. You just do - (long text) - see, that wasn't too hard, was it? xD

Can't you do that with lists inside lists?

Lucario621 wrote:

shadow_7283 wrote:

I am making an advanced file system, like in OSs. I was already planning on doing it, but with the release of BYOB 2.99 and all its advanced list features, I thought I try it there. BUT WAIT, DON'T TELL ME HOW TO DO IT! I'll (try) to figure it out myself!!!

Just curious, but is there any possibility of the full release of BYOB 3 including multi-dimensional arrays? That would be pretty useful in some projects, and you'd have to write a whole lot of code to make it happen in Scratch or BYOB.

Don't worry - I'll tell you how to do it. You just do - (long text) - see, that wasn't too hard, was it? xD

Can't you do that with lists inside lists?

I know, but it still doesn't have the same features and stuff the arrays have. Well I guess it does but...it doesn't allow you to... I DON'T KNOW. XD

I can't wait for byob3. It looks AWESOME!

shadow_7283 wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

Can't you do that with lists inside lists?

I know, but it still doesn't have the same features and stuff the arrays have. Well I guess it does but...it doesn't allow you to... I DON'T KNOW. XD

One of the nice things about BYOB is that if you don't like the user interface for something, you can make your own!  So, in this case, if it bothers you to say ITEM <3> OF [ITEM <5> OF <array>] then you can create another block that lets you say ITEM <3> <5> OF <array> but expand into the other thing. 

Actually from an efficiency standpoint you're right that it's a little faster to look something up in a contiguous array than in a list of lists, although it's not /much/ faster, so you have to be doing a lot of array references before it'll matter.  Addressing the speed issues in using lists is one of the priorities for the August releaase, along with debugging support.

OTOH, lists of lists are a little more versatile than arrays because you can have "ragged arrays" in which every row doesn't have to have the same number of elements.

bharvey wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

Another thing I like about this new BYOB is the "zebra coloring" - how blocks that are nested within the same color change color so you can identify them apart. I think that's really cool  .

See, Jens, I told you they'd like it! 

I'm really glad about that! Zebra coloring is another of Brian's wild ideas (like allowing sprites to "say" lists and blocks - try it!) that I was skeptical about. I was afraid people would hate it if the blocks suddenly had different colors than what they've been used to, so I decided to make that an option that you can turn off. Looks like that would not have been necessary, after all 

BYOB is great so far, except for one thing. I've discovered a way to actually network an infinite number of BYOBs together, to have them interact in any number of different ways. The only problem with this is... The ([network] sensor value) block DOES NOT SUPPORT LISTS AS VARIABLES. This is essential to my project.

Thanks!