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Jonathanpb · 2010-04-15 00:53:29

(This is for lists as well - but I'll just keep it to variables!)

You know how the four variable "Stack blocks" have a drop-down menu so they can be used for all variables? It's very efficient.
The variable "Reporter block" doesn't work like that. There's a new block for each variable! How wasteful.

How about making the variable "Reporter block" with a drop-down menu? Then it won't be inefficient.

And one thing - as hmnwilson pointed out, this probably wasn't implemented in 1.3 because of the Stage monitors - where would you show/hide them?
Wolfie1996 has the solution:

Um... one more thing:

scmb1 wrote:
I thought of another reason it would be good. Here's the situation:

1) I have an incredibly long math equation. I make it out of blocks. It has a lot of variables in it.

2) I copy the equation to use again, but with different numbers. I have to replace all of the variables.

3) With the current method, I have to drag old variables out and drag all of the new variables in. This is tedious, not to mention the fact that I risk accidentally dropping the variable in the wrong place, displacing a super important part of the script, and causing loads of frustration.

4) With your proposed method, I click the little arrow and then click the variable I want. Simple and frustration-less.

YES YES YES YES YES

Um... one more thing! big_smile

JSO wrote:
It also seems weird to me that you have a block with only a dropdown in it. They could've made just one command block with a dropdown menu to select what it should do...

I do want to easily replace variables, what if you could just right click the reporter and select a different variable that way? Just like the comparison blocks can be changed... I think Jens' Chirp has this.

For the first paragraph: tongue

For the second paragraph - I LIKEZ TEH IDEA!!! big_smile smile tongue
...

Picture time!

The block:

The block with a variable selected:

The block being used in a script:

Now... to show how much more efficient this would be, I'll show you two pictures. In Code Messenger (Scratch 1.4), this is what the variable area looks like:

But with the block:

Ah... so clean! big_smile

What do you think? smile

Last edited by Jonathanpb (2010-04-22 03:27:04)

hmnwilson · 2010-04-15 02:21:59

I think they kept it like that so you can easily click the show/hide checkmark without having to select the variable from the dropdown menu first. But if they can find a better system, I support!

Jonathanpb · 2010-04-15 04:07:37

I'M SO STUPID!!!

sad

I'd delete this - but if there's a workaround that someone can think of, I'd gladly accept it. smile

Wolfie1996 · 2010-04-15 04:54:23

Don't delete it! I like this idea - it would come i handy for me smile Anyway, I thought about it for a while, and came up with this:

I'm not 100% sure if it is possible, but it would make it much easier to handle projects with multiple variables - and it looks so much tidier! I support smile

juststickman · 2010-04-15 04:59:07

Jonathanpb wrote:
I'M SO STUPID!!!

I'd delete this - but if there's a workaround that someone can think of, I'd gladly accept it.

I found the workaround

Use the ( ) of ( ) on the stage for global, and on a sprite for local.

Jonathanpb · 2010-04-15 05:54:51

Wolfie1996 wrote:
Don't delete it! I like this idea - it would come i handy for me Anyway, I thought about it for a while, and came up with this:

http://i41.tinypic.com/i53cz4.jpg

I'm not 100% sure if it is possible, but it would make it much easier to handle projects with multiple variables - and it looks so much tidier! I support

That's a nice idea! big_smile Adding to the topic post...

juststickman wrote:
I found the workaround

Use the ( ) of ( ) on the stage for global, and on a sprite for local.

I'm not sure what you mean... hmm

juststickman · 2010-04-15 06:55:48

Jonathanpb wrote:
Wolfie1996 wrote:
Don't delete it! I like this idea - it would come i handy for me Anyway, I thought about it for a while, and came up with this:

http://i41.tinypic.com/i53cz4.jpg

I'm not 100% sure if it is possible, but it would make it much easier to handle projects with multiple variables - and it looks so much tidier! I support
That's a nice idea! Adding to the topic post...

juststickman wrote:
I found the workaround

Use the ( ) of ( ) on the stage for global, and on a sprite for local.
I'm not sure what you mean...

Last edited by juststickman (2010-04-15 06:56:05)

Jonathanpb · 2010-04-16 01:46:27

That really doesn't solve the problem... Wolfie's is fine. smile

markyparky56 · 2010-04-16 06:19:17

It is possible to make this, it has been made. Im not sure about the code for it, but it has been made, its in the Panther Mod.

scmb1 · 2010-04-18 17:48:01

I agree!

Jonathanpb · 2010-04-19 03:22:56

Yayz, this got 'bumped'! big_smile Thanks!

Um... does anyone want to say anything about the suggestion?

markyparky56 · 2010-04-19 12:05:57

Jonathanpb wrote:
Yayz, this got 'bumped'! Thanks!

Um... does anyone want to say anything about the suggestion?

It will save space and make things look better.

Chrischb · 2010-04-19 18:48:24

Agreed! big_smile

scmb1 · 2010-04-19 18:55:05

I thought of another reason it would be good. Here's the situation:

1) I have an incredibly long math equation. I make it out of blocks. It has a lot of variables in it.

2) I copy the equation to use again, but with different numbers. I have to replace all of the variables.

3) With the current method, I have to drag old variables out and drag all of the new variables in. This is tedious, not to mention the fact that I risk accidentally dropping the variable in the wrong place, displacing a super important part of the script, and causing loads of frustration.

4) With your proposed method, I click the little arrow and then click the variable I want. Simple and frustration-less.

Jonathanpb · 2010-04-20 07:03:06

scmb1 wrote:
I thought of another reason it would be good. Here's the situation:

1) I have an incredibly long math equation. I make it out of blocks. It has a lot of variables in it.

2) I copy the equation to use again, but with different numbers. I have to replace all of the variables.

3) With the current method, I have to drag old variables out and drag all of the new variables in. This is tedious, not to mention the fact that I risk accidentally dropping the variable in the wrong place, displacing a super important part of the script, and causing loads of frustration.

4) With your proposed method, I click the little arrow and then click the variable I want. Simple and frustration-less.

YES YES YES YES YES

scmb1 · 2010-04-20 19:27:27

Jonathanpb wrote:
scmb1 wrote:
I thought of another reason it would be good. Here's the situation:

1) I have an incredibly long math equation. I make it out of blocks. It has a lot of variables in it.

2) I copy the equation to use again, but with different numbers. I have to replace all of the variables.

3) With the current method, I have to drag old variables out and drag all of the new variables in. This is tedious, not to mention the fact that I risk accidentally dropping the variable in the wrong place, displacing a super important part of the script, and causing loads of frustration.

4) With your proposed method, I click the little arrow and then click the variable I want. Simple and frustration-less.
YES YES YES YES YES

YES^5 smile

I think I may have suggested this before, but it didn't stay around long...

SeptimusHeap · 2010-04-20 19:54:38

We have this in Panther (pantherprogramming.weebly.com). Check out the pics!

fg123 · 2010-04-20 20:43:01

Brilliant! big_smile

Lucario621 · 2010-04-20 21:20:21

Support!

Chrischb · 2010-04-20 21:32:46

SeptimusHeap wrote:
We have this in Panther (pantherprogramming.weebly.com). Check out the pics!

But we want it in Scratch itself. tongue

ElectricSparx · 2010-04-21 14:24:05

This would come in handy. Although, what about in the sensing category? There's a block called ( [ v] of [ v]). It supports variables.

markyparky56 · 2010-04-21 14:41:37

ElectricSparx wrote:
This would come in handy. Although, what about in the sensing category? There's a block called ( [ v] of [ v]). It supports variables.

Yes, but it still doesn't fix the problem, you still end up with all those different blocks in the variable area.

JSO · 2010-04-21 16:57:28

I think the current method provides a better visual feedback of the variables created.

It also seems weird to me that you have a block with only a dropdown in it. They could've made just one command block with a dropdown menu to select what it should do...

I do want to easily replace variables, what if you could just right click the reporter and select a different variable that way? Just like the comparison blocks can be changed... I think Jens' Chirp has this.

Jonathanpb · 2010-04-22 03:24:33

JSO wrote:
I think the current method provides a better visual feedback of the variables created.

It also seems weird to me that you have a block with only a dropdown in it. They could've made just one command block with a dropdown menu to select what it should do...

I do want to easily replace variables, what if you could just right click the reporter and select a different variable that way? Just like the comparison blocks can be changed... I think Jens' Chirp has this.

If you don't like it with just a dropdown... let's add something to it! big_smile

But I do like your idea. smile I'll add it to the topic post...

scmb1 · 2010-04-26 18:17:13

JSO wrote:
I do want to easily replace variables, what if you could just right click the reporter and select a different variable that way? Just like the comparison blocks can be changed...

Great idea!

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#1 2010-04-15 00:53:29

A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

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#2 2010-04-15 02:21:59

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

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Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

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Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

#5 2010-04-15 04:59:07

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

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#6 2010-04-15 05:54:51

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

Wolfie1996 wrote:

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#7 2010-04-15 06:55:48

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

Jonathanpb wrote:

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#8 2010-04-16 01:46:27

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

#9 2010-04-16 06:19:17

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

#10 2010-04-18 17:48:01

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

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Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

#12 2010-04-19 12:05:57

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

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#13 2010-04-19 18:48:24

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

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Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

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#16 2010-04-20 19:27:27

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

Jonathanpb wrote:

scmb1 wrote:

#17 2010-04-20 19:54:38

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

#18 2010-04-20 20:43:01

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

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Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

#20 2010-04-20 21:32:46

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

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#21 2010-04-21 14:24:05

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

#22 2010-04-21 14:41:37

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

ElectricSparx wrote:

#23 2010-04-21 16:57:28

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

#24 2010-04-22 03:24:33

Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

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Re: A block for all of the variables' values (this is for lists as well)

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