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#1051 2010-04-12 13:58:06

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Re: Panther development thread

johnnydean1 wrote:

Glitches (on my old version as I have no password)
o  The 'key pressed' only does 1 key, and its wrong.
o  The File Blocks, do not always work
o  Move varaible only works if shown
o  It easily can be overloaded/ sometimes becomes glitchey, and red squares and lines come through
o  The length of (world), when you put a variable in it, if it updates quickly, sometimes it does not work

Personallly I cannot get the sound blocks to work, but maybe thats my PC

o keys abcdefghijklmno work, pqrstuvwxyz are recognised as f1, f3-f12
o if path is typed correctly, the block works fine
o agreed
o er, never happened to me
o never happened to me, and was not made by us anyway.
o it's your computer.


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#1052 2010-04-12 14:01:54

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Re: Panther development thread

sparks wrote:

johnnydean1 wrote:

Glitches (on my old version as I have no password)
o  The 'key pressed' only does 1 key, and its wrong.
o  The File Blocks, do not always work
o  Move varaible only works if shown
o  It easily can be overloaded/ sometimes becomes glitchey, and red squares and lines come through
o  The length of (world), when you put a variable in it, if it updates quickly, sometimes it does not work

Personallly I cannot get the sound blocks to work, but maybe thats my PC

o keys abcdefghijklmno work, pqrstuvwxyz are recognised as f1, f3-f12
o if path is typed correctly, the block works fine
o agreed
o er, never happened to me
o never happened to me, and was not made by us anyway.
o it's your computer.

But why are we bug testing an older version?


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#1053 2010-04-12 14:02:03

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Re: Panther development thread

MathWizz wrote:

I'm trying to make some more pen functions...

What about an rubber tool? It HAS to be not just white - it needs to be blank. Otherwise it would just not work right.

If nobody has done this, I might make these blocks:
(round () to the nearest () )

(circuference of circle with radius: () )
(circuference of circle with diameter: () )
(area of circle with radius:() )
(are of circle with diameter:() )
And Maybe:
Area of other shape blocks, maybe even make a new % - like %p for list of shapes for the function.

What dya think?

@markyparky: because he can't get his hands on a newer version, like me.

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#1054 2010-04-12 14:10:29

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Re: Panther development thread

Sperry wrote:

If nobody has done this, I might make these blocks:
(round () to the nearest () )

(circuference of circle with radius: () )
(circuference of circle with diameter: () )
(area of circle with radius:() )
(are of circle with diameter:() )
And Maybe:
Area of other shape blocks, maybe even make a new % - like %p for list of shapes for the function.

Those can already be accomplished with the math blocks, besides the rounding one.


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#1055 2010-04-12 14:12:40

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Re: Panther development thread

markyparky56 wrote:

Sperry wrote:

If nobody has done this, I might make these blocks:
(round () to the nearest () )

(circuference of circle with radius: () )
(circuference of circle with diameter: () )
(area of circle with radius:() )
(are of circle with diameter:() )
And Maybe:
Area of other shape blocks, maybe even make a new % - like %p for list of shapes for the function.

Those can already be accomplished with the math blocks, besides the rounding one.

The rounding one can be done too.


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#1056 2010-04-12 14:12:53

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Re: Panther development thread

markyparky56 wrote:

Sperry wrote:

If nobody has done this, I might make these blocks:
(round () to the nearest () )

(circuference of circle with radius: () )
(circuference of circle with diameter: () )
(area of circle with radius:() )
(are of circle with diameter:() )
And Maybe:
Area of other shape blocks, maybe even make a new % - like %p for list of shapes for the function.

Those can already be accomplished with the math blocks, besides the rounding one.

I know - but what about people not good at maths?

@MathWizz:

How without having a very long calculation method?

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#1057 2010-04-12 14:13:42

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Re: Panther development thread

Sperry wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

Sperry wrote:

If nobody has done this, I might make these blocks:
(round () to the nearest () )

(circuference of circle with radius: () )
(circuference of circle with diameter: () )
(area of circle with radius:() )
(are of circle with diameter:() )
And Maybe:
Area of other shape blocks, maybe even make a new % - like %p for list of shapes for the function.

Those can already be accomplished with the math blocks, besides the rounding one.

I know - but what about people not good at maths?

Then they go learn how to do it.


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#1058 2010-04-12 14:14:59

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Re: Panther development thread

markyparky56 wrote:

Sperry wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

Those can already be accomplished with the math blocks, besides the rounding one.

I know - but what about people not good at maths?

Then they go learn how to do it.

I suppose, this is supposed to be an advanced version of Scratch

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#1059 2010-04-12 14:16:56

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Re: Panther development thread

Sperry wrote:

MathWizz wrote:

I'm trying to make some more pen functions...

What about an rubber tool? It HAS to be not just white - it needs to be blank. Otherwise it would just not work right.

If nobody has done this, I might make these blocks:
(round () to the nearest () )

1(circuference of circle with radius: () )
2(circuference of circle with diameter: () )
3(area of circle with radius:() )
4(are of circle with diameter:() )
And Maybe:
Area of other shape blocks, maybe even make a new % - like %p for list of shapes for the function.

What dya think?

@markyparky: because he can't get his hands on a newer version, like me.

circumfrence =  pi  2r or (((pi))*(((RADIUS)*(2))))
circumfrence = pi diameter or ((pi)*(DIAMETER))
area = pi diameter/2^2 or (((pi))*(((((DIAMETER)/(2)))^(r))))
area = pi radius^2 or (((pi))*(((raduis)^(r))))

they can all be done with existing blocks, is my point, and I feel that the blocks might get it the way... they're good ideas though  smile

I like the %p idea though


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#1060 2010-04-12 14:17:44

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Re: Panther development thread

Sperry wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

Sperry wrote:


I know - but what about people not good at maths?

Then they go learn how to do it.

I suppose, this is supposed to be an advanced version of Scratch

How about after Panther we make one called Kitten? The simplest it gets!


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#1061 2010-04-12 14:19:49

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Re: Panther development thread

oh, and the erasor block would be useful, if difficult... I noticed that using the [!mix color [!pen color!] with [!color of pixil (mouseX) (mousey)!]] caused the color to change according to the surrounding colour, and acted a bit like a rubber.


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#1062 2010-04-12 14:20:57

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Re: Panther development thread

markyparky56 wrote:

Sperry wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:


Then they go learn how to do it.

I suppose, this is supposed to be an advanced version of Scratch

How about after Panther we make one called Kitten? The simplest it gets!

Scratch is simple enough for 6 year olds to grasp, I think it would be unrewarding if we create a simplified version, besides, that would just be deleting blocks and MIT themselves could do that in an afternoon.


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#1063 2010-04-12 14:20:58

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Re: Panther development thread

markyparky56 wrote:

Sperry wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

Then they go learn how to do it.

I suppose, this is supposed to be an advanced version of Scratch

How about after Panther we make one called Kitten? The simplest it gets!

LOL x10000000000^INFINITY!

Great idea! Heres the moto: "The easiset way to do stupidly nerdish things!" (big rubbish jk)

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#1064 2010-04-12 14:20:59

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Re: Panther development thread

sparks wrote:

oh, and the erasor block would be useful, if difficult... I noticed that using the [!mix color [!pen color!] with [!color of pixil (mouseX) (mousey)!]] caused the color to change according to the surrounding colour, and acted a bit like a rubber.

A pixel sized rubber! just what I wanted!


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#1065 2010-04-12 14:21:50

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Re: Panther development thread

markyparky56 wrote:

Sperry wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:


Then they go learn how to do it.

I suppose, this is supposed to be an advanced version of Scratch

How about after Panther we make one called Kitten? The simplest it gets!

XD


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#1066 2010-04-12 14:22:36

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Re: Panther development thread

Sperry wrote:

I know - but what about people not good at maths?

well then we should supply tutorial projects with Panther that offer block methods that allow the useful but complex calculations to be lernt.


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#1067 2010-04-12 14:23:12

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Re: Panther development thread

So does anybody like my ideas? Would you like me to have a stab at the coding for them?


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#1068 2010-04-12 14:24:41

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Re: Panther development thread

Sperry wrote:

So does anybody like my ideas? Would you like me to have a stab at the coding for them?

the round () to nearest () could easily replace the (round ()) block for it's increased functionality, the one about %p shape functions was good too  smile


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#1069 2010-04-12 14:26:54

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Re: Panther development thread

How do you do "if" fuctions in Squeak?


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#1070 2010-04-12 14:27:17

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Re: Panther development thread

MathWizz wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

Sperry wrote:


I suppose, this is supposed to be an advanced version of Scratch

How about after Panther we make one called Kitten? The simplest it gets!

XD

Basicaly stripping Scratch back to the basic blocks, like glide and move () steps.


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#1071 2010-04-12 14:28:55

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Re: Panther development thread

markyparky56 wrote:

MathWizz wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

How about after Panther we make one called Kitten? The simplest it gets!

XD

Basicaly stripping Scratch back to the basic blocks, like glide and move () steps.

so rather than adding two catagories, we'd take two away... pen and sound would do it. they're the least used. I'm joking, if you want to make Kitten do it without me cos I think that's a waste of time. Scratch is already aimed to be as simple as.

think about it, how many people have you heard complianing that there aren't enough powerful or useful blocks, and how many people have you heard complaining how difficult scratch is and how there are too many blocks, it makes them scared, they'd feel safer if they were'nt outnumbered and just had one block... then they might stand a chance.... as long as it's not too scary, like glide... something simple like a "do nothing" block. yeah.....  ..... no.

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#1072 2010-04-12 14:31:17

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Re: Panther development thread

sparks wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

MathWizz wrote:


XD

Basicaly stripping Scratch back to the basic blocks, like glide and move () steps.

so rather than adding two catagories, we'd take two away... pen and sound would do it. they're the least used. I'm joking, if you want to make Kitten do it without me cos I think that's a waste of time. Scratch is already aimed to be as simple as.

think about it, how many people have you heard complianing that there aren't enough powerful or useful blocks, and how many people have you heard complaining how difficult scratch is and how there are too many blocks, it makes them scared, they'd feel safer if they were'nt outnumbered and just had one block... then they might stand a chance.... as long as it's not too scary, like glide... something simple like a "do nothing" block. yeah.....  ..... no.

I know, its just a joke.


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#1073 2010-04-12 14:32:27

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Re: Panther development thread

tongue

ooh! 400 posts! wow.

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#1074 2010-04-12 14:34:12

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Re: Panther development thread

NVM about the if command - i can use ifTrue and ifFalse.

Have you noticed how the last like 15 pages have been posted since yesterday!  tongue


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#1075 2010-04-12 14:35:58

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Re: Panther development thread

Sperry wrote:

Have you noticed how the last like 15 pages have been posted since yesterday!  tongue

13 actualy, since post #726


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