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#1 2010-04-12 08:41:08

RyanBenLee
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Registered: 2009-03-08
Posts: 47

Composing Music

Music...I feel so limited trying to use it in scratch. You cant play more then note at a time or change the octive(or can you)(is that spelt right?).Lets say I want to play C. I need 3 scripts just to play it. One for C, another for A and D(im not music student but you get my point right?). Anyway, I feel that scratch is hopeless at making music(and while im still on the topic also animation).So if there is anyway you could help the music programming to improve please just comment on your thoughts(and while you are at it check out my games)! :lol

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#2 2010-04-12 09:58:16

technoguyx
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Registered: 2008-10-18
Posts: 1000+

Re: Composing Music

The octave can be changed. The keyboard just shows 2 octaves but it really supports all 128 MIDI notes. Substract 13 to the note number to make it an octave lower, or add 13 to make it an octave higher.

If you think Scratch is too limited for music (it can get off-sync sometimes too) you can download TuxGuitar and compose your music with that.


http://getgnulinux.org/links/en/linuxliberated_4_78x116.png

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#3 2010-04-12 12:27:16

hmnwilson
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Registered: 2007-07-04
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Re: Composing Music

The note blocks were never really meant for composing (good) music. It's mainly just for if, say, you were trying to make an interactive piano without having to import every single note as a sound file.

You're better off using a separate program to make your music.


I'm taking a break from Scratch until 2.0 comes out. Any messages sent between then and now probably won't be read - sorry.
(Oct. 20, 2011)

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#4 2010-04-12 13:05:34

forest
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Registered: 2007-07-29
Posts: 100+

Re: Composing Music

RyanBenLee wrote:

Music...I feel so limited trying to use it in scratch. You cant play more then note at a time or change the octive(or can you)(is that spelt right?).Lets say I want to play C. I need 3 scripts just to play it. One for C, another for A and D(im not music student but you get my point right?). Anyway, I feel that scratch is hopeless at making music(and while im still on the topic also animation).So if there is anyway you could help the music programming to improve please just comment on your thoughts(and while you are at it check out my games)! :lol

just check out jen 's music projects..

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#5 2010-04-12 13:09:30

forest
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Registered: 2007-07-29
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Re: Composing Music

technoguyx wrote:

The octave can be changed. The keyboard just shows 2 octaves but it really supports all 128 MIDI notes. Substract 13 to the note number to make it an octave lower, or add 13 to make it an octave higher.

If you think Scratch is too limited for music (it can get off-sync sometimes too) you can download TuxGuitar and compose your music with that.

You can import the midi files produced from the TuxGuitar program into linux multimedia studio. Then midi voices can be changed to various synth preset voices..and then can
be further altered by various filters etc. The end result can be exported from the program as a wave file which is useable in scratch.

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#6 2010-04-12 13:31:37

markyparky56
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Registered: 2008-03-20
Posts: 1000+

Re: Composing Music

technoguyx wrote:

The octave can be changed. The keyboard just shows 2 octaves but it really supports all 128 MIDI notes. Substract 13 to the note number to make it an octave lower, or add 13 to make it an octave higher.

If you think Scratch is too limited for music (it can get off-sync sometimes too) you can download TuxGuitar and compose your music with that.

But how do you get the music back into scratch, thats the thing. You need a midi converter, I have one, but I dont know if it works or not.


http://j.mp/jgVnTq
Check out my game engine development site: NewDawn I'm a Level 171 Scratcher.I am http://bit.ly/nkvLNT

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#7 2010-04-14 15:56:23

aweman
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Registered: 2008-06-22
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Re: Composing Music

Go to:http://notessimo.net/compose.php
Very user friendly and makes great music!

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#8 2010-04-14 16:02:38

technoguyx
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Registered: 2008-10-18
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Re: Composing Music

aweman wrote:

Go to:http://notessimo.net/compose.php
Very user friendly and makes great music!

That's another good choice  smile

Marky, yes I know you need something to convert the MIDI to MP3. You can also use Free Sound Recorder to record your MIDI while it plays (be sure to set the recording device to Stereo Mix).


http://getgnulinux.org/links/en/linuxliberated_4_78x116.png

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#9 2010-04-14 16:04:25

markyparky56
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Registered: 2008-03-20
Posts: 1000+

Re: Composing Music

technoguyx wrote:

aweman wrote:

Go to:http://notessimo.net/compose.php
Very user friendly and makes great music!

That's another good choice  smile

Marky, yes I know you need something to convert the MIDI to MP3. You can also use Free Sound Recorder to record your MIDI while it plays (be sure to set the recording device to Stereo Mix).

I have a midi2mp3 converter though, so im fine.


http://j.mp/jgVnTq
Check out my game engine development site: NewDawn I'm a Level 171 Scratcher.I am http://bit.ly/nkvLNT

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#10 2010-04-29 11:38:41

softball71
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Registered: 2010-04-29
Posts: 9

Re: Composing Music

heyy whats up

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#11 2010-04-29 11:49:32

markyparky56
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Registered: 2008-03-20
Posts: 1000+

Re: Composing Music

softball71 wrote:

heyy whats up

Scratch isn't a chatroom.


http://j.mp/jgVnTq
Check out my game engine development site: NewDawn I'm a Level 171 Scratcher.I am http://bit.ly/nkvLNT

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#12 2010-04-29 15:52:54

coolstuff
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Registered: 2008-03-06
Posts: 1000+

Re: Composing Music

hmnwilson wrote:

It's mainly just for if, say, you were trying to make an interactive piano without having to import every single note as a sound file.

And yet they don't let you type a simple sentence without having an ugly speech bubble around it. You should be able to control that...

*BRILLIANT IDEA!*

hmnwilson wrote:

You're better off using a separate program to make your music.

QFT.

Last edited by coolstuff (2010-04-29 15:53:44)

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