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#1 2010-03-31 13:16:42

PinballFreak1969
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Most Useful/Useless Block

What do you think the most useful and te most useless block is?
My opinion:
Useful: Forever. You can't do any games without it. Would be Green Flag Clicked, but there's too many substitutes for that.
Useless: Forever If. Just takes up memory, can easily be recreated with two blocks, bound to confuse new users, should be deleted.

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#2 2010-03-31 13:20:42

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

Forever if is definitly the most useless.

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#3 2010-03-31 13:27:35

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

Most useful: When green flag clicked (You can't do ANYTHING without this one)
Least useful: Forever if

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#4 2010-03-31 13:29:12

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

BWOG wrote:

Most useful: When green flag clicked (You can't do ANYTHING without this one)

I would agree if you couldn't make substitues for it with ease.

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#5 2010-03-31 13:31:21

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

PinballFreak1969 wrote:

BWOG wrote:

Most useful: When green flag clicked (You can't do ANYTHING without this one)

I would agree if you couldn't make substitues for it with ease.

Name a substitute. If I could I'd bet 5 dollars you can't name one that would work.

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#6 2010-03-31 13:33:09

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

BWOG wrote:

PinballFreak1969 wrote:

BWOG wrote:

Most useful: When green flag clicked (You can't do ANYTHING without this one)

I would agree if you couldn't make substitues for it with ease.

Name a substitute. If I could I'd bet 5 dollars you can't name one that would work.

When (RANDOM KEY) pressed.

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#7 2010-03-31 13:34:33

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

BWOG wrote:

PinballFreak1969 wrote:

BWOG wrote:

Most useful: When green flag clicked (You can't do ANYTHING without this one)

I would agree if you couldn't make substitues for it with ease.

Name a substitute. If I could I'd bet 5 dollars you can't name one that would work.

What does money have to do with anything?
Well, you can use the broadcast and receive block instead of green flag. But you would have to put the scripts in order and add variables.

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#8 2010-03-31 13:39:32

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

PinballFreak1969 wrote:

BWOG wrote:

PinballFreak1969 wrote:


I would agree if you couldn't make substitues for it with ease.

Name a substitute. If I could I'd bet 5 dollars you can't name one that would work.

When (RANDOM KEY) pressed.

I forgot about that one >_<

Other than that there are no other ones that can be the only block.

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#9 2010-03-31 13:40:41

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

AnonymousTom wrote:

BWOG wrote:

PinballFreak1969 wrote:


I would agree if you couldn't make substitues for it with ease.

Name a substitute. If I could I'd bet 5 dollars you can't name one that would work.

What does money have to do with anything?
Well, you can use the broadcast and receive block instead of green flag. But you would have to put the scripts in order and add variables.

Yes there is look at my post above.

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#10 2010-03-31 14:16:53

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

BWOG wrote:

PinballFreak1969 wrote:

BWOG wrote:


Name a substitute. If I could I'd bet 5 dollars you can't name one that would work.

When (RANDOM KEY) pressed.

I forgot about that one >_<

Other than that there are no other ones that can be the only block.

No, you could use "when sprite ____ clicked", "broadcast____".

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#11 2010-03-31 14:38:47

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

Get this back on topic.
Most useful/useless blocks, people!

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#12 2010-03-31 14:40:50

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

Most useful: when green flag clicked
Least useful: forever if <>

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#13 2010-03-31 17:52:02

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

PinballFreak1969 wrote:

What do you think the most useful and te most useless block is?
My opinion:
Useful: Forever. You can't do any games without it. Would be Green Flag Clicked, but there's too many substitutes for that.
Useless: Forever If. Just takes up memory, can easily be recreated with two blocks, bound to confuse new users, should be deleted.

Well... forever if is actually faster than an if inside a forever.

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#14 2010-03-31 17:57:18

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

Thats because forever if = forever + wait until

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#15 2010-03-31 18:18:18

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

archmage wrote:

Thats because forever if = forever + wait until

No it isn't... it just... checks once every frame if the condition is true... gosh.

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#16 2010-03-31 18:42:33

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

No, its definitely forever wait until. I think the scratch team confirmed it in some post.

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#17 2010-03-31 18:45:15

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

I made a substitute for <forever> @ http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/phillips101/960800

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#18 2010-03-31 18:47:46

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

phillips101 wrote:

I made a substitute for <forever> @ http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/phillips101/960800

Yeah, but forever is a bit more practical.

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#19 2010-03-31 18:55:34

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

The best substitute is

repeat until <0=1>

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#20 2010-03-31 19:59:13

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

Most Useful: When Flag Clicked.
Most Useless: Forever If, because of what everyone has said. And you only need 1 "turn X degrees" block, you can use a negative to turn to the other side. But still it's useful for newbies.  tongue

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#21 2010-03-31 20:24:27

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

Most Useful:  Broadcast (it isn't most necessary, people)
Least Useful:  ( )mod( )  I've never had to use it.  Ever.  Forever If starts bad habits but can be useful once in a while.

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#22 2010-03-31 20:28:24

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

() MOD () is very useful sometimes.

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#23 2010-03-31 20:28:41

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

Most useful: Broadcast
Least Useful: Forever...?

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#24 2010-03-31 20:29:56

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

Forever is useful.
Not forever if.

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#25 2010-03-31 20:30:40

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Re: Most Useful/Useless Block

littletonkslover wrote:

Most useful: Broadcast
Least Useful: Forever...?

Forever is extremely useful. Of course, you really wouldn't need it in one of your animations, unless you were looping something.

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