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#201 2010-03-30 16:08:22

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Re: Panther development thread

Hey! I'm back from school!

Any idea for a 1.0 release date?

I'm anticipating the release!


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#202 2010-03-30 16:35:02

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Re: Panther development thread

sparks wrote:

ah, I see I am surrounded by curly bracket lovers. well, I'm glad you lot like them anyway.

Oh yes, that kind of power.

btw, I think that sprite cloning blocks as well as a save block would be amazing! Also, if you had an import sprite/costume from [C\:program files etc] and export sprite/costume to [folder address] then a scratch project could import large sprites with a lot of code when they are needed, and then export them back again (or have a delete block, come to think of it) so that they can be removed again once that large scripting task is complete so that Panther is freed up a little. I don't know how easy that would be. If those import blocks are possible, it might be helpful if there was some way of telling if the import was sucessful, such as a "object does not exist at this path" message or an error broadcast from scratch itself that triggers the broadcast blocks or an error boolian block.

er, all I can think of saying right now.

peace out.

OK, copy and delete isn't too hard but I can never get it to work in presentation mode (I'll work on it)
I'll look into import and save, but export is bad, because you could, say make i virus-project that made millions of copies of itself in its folder. (Which wouldn't be good)


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#203 2010-03-30 16:40:02

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Re: Panther development thread

nXIII, how about a release date?


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#204 2010-03-30 16:42:15

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Re: Panther development thread

SeptimusHeap wrote:

Hey! I'm back from school!

Any idea for a 1.0 release date?

I'm anticipating the release!

Depends, again, on how much people ask for.


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#205 2010-03-30 16:44:11

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Re: Panther development thread

Well, if no more requests come, then what do you think?

How far are you?


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#206 2010-03-30 16:47:35

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Re: Panther development thread

An export block could also be very usefull, as you could make a drawing program that exports when you click save. Perhaps just a block that exports an image of the stage?

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#207 2010-03-30 16:48:27

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Re: Panther development thread

that's true, export isn't all that nesesscary, although it would be the perfect way to store gameplay information like a "cookie" for scratch. Depending how the import block is coded, it might be possible to import images or sprites from online if you type the web address as well as the image name. if there is a save block then the export would be unessscary because the script can save the list or variable values to the project when nessescary. Could you maybe load the unfinished version of Panther onto the new site (log in like normal as a panther mod so us mods can test it for glitches and see if we have any suggestions? thanks a lot nXIII you're brilliant!


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#208 2010-03-30 16:49:40

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Re: Panther development thread

sparks, nXIII, please check my new Panther forum post on the Panther web site.


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#209 2010-03-30 16:52:53

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Re: Panther development thread

I was thinking, that, with a block to export as an editable image,(jpg,bmp,gif), pen blocks for a circle and a line, and a block to print, you could make a full drawing program.

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#210 2010-03-30 16:55:54

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Re: Panther development thread

sparks wrote:

that's true, export isn't all that nesesscary, although it would be the perfect way to store gameplay information like a "cookie" for scratch. Depending how the import block is coded, it might be possible to import images or sprites from online if you type the web address as well as the image name. if there is a save block then the export would be unessscary because the script can save the list or variable values to the project when nessescary. Could you maybe load the unfinished version of Panther onto the new site (log in like normal as a panther mod so us mods can test it for glitches and see if we have any suggestions? thanks a lot nXIII you're brilliant!

Please do!


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#211 2010-03-30 16:57:24

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Re: Panther development thread

my drawing program was featured a while back if you want to take a look. In the unpublished v3 that isn't finished, I solved the line problem with a sprite and the square problem with four sprites.


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#212 2010-03-30 17:35:36

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Re: Panther development thread

nXIII, will you please post a beta version of Panther?


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#213 2010-03-30 17:46:18

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Re: Panther development thread

Sorry have homework right now.

EDIT: OK, that was a bit brief: I meant that I had homework to do and I wanted to finish it so I didn't need have to do it later or something...
I'm back now, though! I'll upload the zip. (it has fill screen turned off and a bunch of browsers, though, because I'm not done with it: look but don't, like, make new stuff because it's not the real 1.0)

UPDATE: I'm just quickly adding the import/export FILE feature (it just reads the contents, doesn't do anything fancy with it.

UPDATEx2: For the 'contents of file %s' block, what do you want me to replace newlines with?

UPDATEx3: I'm just leaving the newlines in. Panther doesn't like displaying them, but I don't want to replace them because I have to do it with a single character. I think I'll make a newline constant.

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#214 2010-03-30 20:02:01

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Re: Panther development thread

Panther 1.0 β: download, unzip, and run 'Panther.exe'.

Looky but no changey!

I made a sample with file reading in Sample Projects.

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#215 2010-03-30 23:39:45

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Re: Panther development thread

SeptimusHeap wrote:

How about a different Scratch, Scratch Ex? It would have advanced features like:

[Redraw] - Would redraw all pen movements
[Create costume of [stage picture]]
                           [recorded pen]
                           [costume [] of [Sprite1]]
                           [current sprite] (including effects)
(Effect [ghost])
[Show list [list]] (This and the hide would be in normal Scratch.)
[Hide list [list]]
[Name script _____]
[Stop script [script1]]

[Host free mesh] - Hosts mesh
[Join IP [IPadress] - Joins mesh on this adress.
[Host password mesh _______] - Hosts mesh, but joiners need the password.
(Get variable [x] from mesh) - Collects a variable from mesh
[Broadcast to mesh [hi]] - Only broadcasts to mesh, not you.

[Host free server [Sep's World]] - Like mesh, but multiple people can join.
[Join server [Sep's World] as [Wunp131]]  - Joins the server listed as name listed.
[Host password server [Admin City]] - Hosts server with password.
(Get variable [Gold] from user [Wunp131]] - Gets variable from listed user.
                                          [Host] - Host too!
[Broadcast to server [Welcome to Sep's World!] - Broadcasts to server, not you.

Servers would require forwarding port 42001 to host.


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#216 2010-03-31 04:00:56

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Re: Panther development thread

Can't extract files from .zip, it sayd the zip file is corrupt.


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#217 2010-03-31 04:38:35

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Re: Panther development thread

oh, I was thinking that the [open browser with URL: [http://www.]] block is so easy to impliment and potentially so useful that it would be a shame to leave it out. I am aware that sadly it is quite a dangerous block if used maliciously or even if it were accidentally placed in a forever loop by a programmer. however, it still has great implications and I reckon that if we could get some kind of popup to appear that looks something like this, it would make the block a lot safer.

____________________________________________________________________________
|  URL requested                                                                                       X |
|¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯|
| Scratch would like to open the URL http://www.example.com                         |
| (3 other requests pending)                                                                          |
|                                                                                                                |
|                                                                                                                 |
|      (accept request)   (decline request)   (cancel all pending requests)             |
_____________________________________________________________________________|

I think that would be pretty safe. (hope the drawing came out ok). here is a forum topic where I was debating the dangers of the URL block with others. http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=25885&p=1 .Dangers of block start with our oown girwaffles at post #15. and I'm LOVING her rick roll example  tongue  seriously, read it.


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#218 2010-03-31 05:07:24

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Re: Panther development thread

sparks wrote:

oh, I was thinking that the [open browser with URL: [http://www.]] block is so easy to impliment and potentially so useful that it would be a shame to leave it out. I am aware that sadly it is quite a dangerous block if used maliciously or even if it were accidentally placed in a forever loop by a programmer. however, it still has great implications and I reckon that if we could get some kind of popup to appear that looks something like this, it would make the block a lot safer.

____________________________________________________________________________
|  URL requested                                                                                       X |
|¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯|
| Scratch would like to open the URL http://www.example.com                         |
| (3 other requests pending)                                                                          |
|                                                                                                                |
|                                                                                                                 |
|      (accept request)   (decline request)   (cancel all pending requests)             |
_____________________________________________________________________________|

I think that would be pretty safe. (hope the drawing came out ok). here is a forum topic where I was debating the dangers of the URL block with others. http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=25885&p=1 .Dangers of block start with our oown girwaffles at post #15. and I'm LOVING her rick roll example  tongue  seriously, read it.

What if they use a shortened url to hide what the true link is?

Plus, I found another idea that might be good to add. Yet again, by Illusionist.

http://i49.tinypic.com/w7kffo.jpg


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#219 2010-03-31 05:23:50

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Re: Panther development thread

Guys... why do we have to do the chat thing in a really wierd way and not just use an IM system? e.g. Xat I can set one up right now if you want me to? ill do a little example on my page.

Edit: Oh drat... forgot the password... ok, ill just post the code here.

Code:

<embed src="http://www.xatech.com/web_gear/chat/chat.swf" quality="high" width="640" height="480" name="chat" FlashVars="id=90163523" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://xat.com/update_flash.shtml" /><br><small><a target="_BLANK" href="http://xat.com/web_gear/?cb">Get your own Chat Box!</a> <a target="_BLANK" href="http://xat.com/web_gear/chat/go_large.php?id=90163523">Go Large!</a></small><br>

Just copy that into one of the html things and press ok, it'll come up with a IM box with matrix like background, instant messaging!

Lol... i think i can bypass the login system now... hehe! hacking! (Not really, just i can somehow get in.)

Ok, iv put the chat box in on my page. You can move it to a seperate page if you want.
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What do you think?

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#220 2010-03-31 07:45:07

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Re: Panther development thread

Guys: I have a problem.

My parents won't let me download anything unless it's from a trusted source.


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#221 2010-03-31 08:00:47

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Re: Panther development thread

SeptimusHeap wrote:

Guys: I have a problem.

My parents won't let me download anything unless it's from a trusted source.

Hmm... Do you know of any sites?


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#222 2010-03-31 08:03:38

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Re: Panther development thread

sparks wrote:

Can't extract files from .zip, it sayd the zip file is corrupt.

Rename the file "Panther1.0"


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#223 2010-03-31 08:15:13

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Re: Panther development thread

Uh... ROBLOX, Scratch, Tux Paint (My bro's), and that's really it. They let me if a good friend has downloaded it, though.


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#224 2010-03-31 08:19:53

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Re: Panther development thread

SeptimusHeap wrote:

Uh... ROBLOX, Scratch, Tux Paint (My bro's), and that's really it. They let me if a good friend has downloaded it, though.

Is any one of us a good friend?  tongue  I've downloaded it...


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#225 2010-03-31 08:21:21

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Re: Panther development thread

Sadly... No.


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