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demosthenes wrote:

nXIII wrote:

Is this OK?

http://i43.tinypic.com/11j6a8n.png

(sorry for the double-post, I don't think Demosthenes saw it)

Looks okay.
Check, is it 68x73 at least?

It's 63x78!!!

demosthenes wrote:

No, robots must be convex!

Is mine ok? It is convex (rectangle), but it just has a few small spikes on the long sides for decoration.

I'll get a picture soon...

Last edited by Lucario621 (2010-03-14 17:37:48)

nXIII wrote:

demosthenes wrote:

juststickman wrote:

It's 63x78!!!

Hmm, just make it a few more pixels please.

It has an area that is 50 square pixels less, and gets distorted when I resize it that much. Please let me keep it  ...

....just crop halve of it, then move it enough so the width/length will be acceptable, and then fill in the leftover area. Overall, the design of how your robot looks doesn't matter, so just draw a red circle that meets the exact proportions, and then continue scripting your robot, considering you, yourself, do not have much time, and the scripting is more important.

nXIII wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

nXIII wrote:

It has an area that is 50 square pixels less, and gets distorted when I resize it that much. Please let me keep it  ...

....just crop halve of it, then move it enough so the width/length will be acceptable, and then fill in the leftover area. Overall, the design of how your robot looks doesn't matter, so just draw a red circle that meets the exact proportions, and then continue scripting your robot, considering you, yourself, do not have much time, and the scripting is more important.

I am (almost) DONE scripting, and I like my robot the way it is. I don't like a red circle.

Well there's no exceptions to the size. I'm sorry  . Rules are rules.

@Demosthenes:

What is the max robot size?
What is the min bullet size?
What is the max bullet size?

Lucario621 wrote:

nXIII wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

....just crop halve of it, then move it enough so the width/length will be acceptable, and then fill in the leftover area. Overall, the design of how your robot looks doesn't matter, so just draw a red circle that meets the exact proportions, and then continue scripting your robot, considering you, yourself, do not have much time, and the scripting is more important.

I am (almost) DONE scripting, and I like my robot the way it is. I don't like a red circle.

Well there's no exceptions to the size. I'm sorry  . Rules are rules.

@Demosthenes:

What is the max robot size?
What is the min bullet size?
What is the max bullet size?

No min bullet size.
I forget the other two >.>

OK - a elliptical robot at that size has a surface area of 3857 pixels, whereas a square robot of that size has a surface area of 4964. This is a massive difference and I wouldn't even dare of calling that "fair".

@lucario I was talking about demosphene's size, not mine.

Last edited by RHY3756547 (2010-03-14 19:37:45)

RHY3756547 wrote:

OK - a elliptical robot at that size has a surface area of 3857 pixels, whereas a square robot of that size has a surface area of 4964. This is a massive difference and I wouldn't even dare of calling that "fair".

@lucario I was talking about demosphene's size, not mine.

...that doesn't make sense either. You just said you're robot is square. That means the square root of your robot's area is it's width and length. Sqrt of 4964 is 70.4556598. How can that be your width and length, when you can't have a decimal of pixels?

RHY3756547 wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

RHY3756547 wrote:

OK - a elliptical robot at that size has a surface area of 3857 pixels, whereas a square robot of that size has a surface area of 4964. This is a massive difference and I wouldn't even dare of calling that "fair".

@lucario I was talking about demosphene's size, not mine.

...that doesn't make sense either. You just said you're robot is square. That means the square root of your robot's area is it's width and length. Sqrt of 4964 is 70.4556598. How can that be your width and length, when you can't have a decimal of pixels?

What the hell are you on about?

Ehem

I was talking about the dimensions 68x73 AND ONLY THOSE DIMENSIONS THAT'S RIGHT ONLY THEM and the massive difference in surface area between elipse robots at THAT SIZE and square robots at THAT SIZE.

If I resized my robot to that I would have a MASSIVE disadvantage.

Well what got you into circles anyway? Nobody is using circles anyway....

Lucario621 wrote:

RHY3756547 wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

...that doesn't make sense either. You just said you're robot is square. That means the square root of your robot's area is it's width and length. Sqrt of 4964 is 70.4556598. How can that be your width and length, when you can't have a decimal of pixels?

What the hell are you on about?

Ehem

I was talking about the dimensions 68x73 AND ONLY THOSE DIMENSIONS THAT'S RIGHT ONLY THEM and the massive difference in surface area between elipse robots at THAT SIZE and square robots at THAT SIZE.

If I resized my robot to that I would have a MASSIVE disadvantage.

Well what got you into circles anyway? Nobody is using circles anyway....

*facepalm*

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/demosthenes_test/917035

If that isn't an ellipse by your standards then I will shoot myself. -_-

RHY3756547 wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

RHY3756547 wrote:

What the hell are you on about?

Ehem

I was talking about the dimensions 68x73 AND ONLY THOSE DIMENSIONS THAT'S RIGHT ONLY THEM and the massive difference in surface area between elipse robots at THAT SIZE and square robots at THAT SIZE.

If I resized my robot to that I would have a MASSIVE disadvantage.

Well what got you into circles anyway? Nobody is using circles anyway....

*facepalm*

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/demosthenes_test/917035

If that isn't an ellipse by your standards then I will shoot myself. -_-

*purposely answers wrong*

...jk

Yes it is an ellipse. Duh. But most people are using that just as a guide for the size of the sprite. Not necessarily the actual shape. Not necessarily everybody is using that shape. I quote your comment on that project that you just posted a link to:

RHY3756547 wrote:

That's the size. You base your robot off of it.

Exactly.

RHY3756547 wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

RHY3756547 wrote:

*facepalm*

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/demosthenes_test/917035

If that isn't an ellipse by your standards then I will shoot myself. -_-

*purposely answers wrong*

...jk

Yes it is an ellipse. Duh. But most people are using that just as a guide for the size of the sprite. Not necessarily the actual shape. Not necessarily everybody is using that shape. I quote your comment on that project that you just posted a link to:

RHY3756547 wrote:

That's the size. You base your robot off of it.

Exactly.

Size does not mean pixel height and width.

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Maybe not 'exactly' (I didn't use the word 'exact' like that, I just meant that I was correct and you were wrong), and maybe not by pixels, but still generally, it's about height, and width.

Lucario621 wrote:

RHY3756547 wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

*purposely answers wrong*

...jk

Yes it is an ellipse. Duh. But most people are using that just as a guide for the size of the sprite. Not necessarily the actual shape. Not necessarily everybody is using that shape. I quote your comment on that project that you just posted a link to:


Exactly.

Size does not mean pixel height and width.

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Maybe not 'exactly' (I didn't use the word 'exact' like that, I just meant that I was correct and you were wrong), and maybe not by pixels, but still generally, it's about height, and width.

I'm sorry to say this, Lucario, but RHY is 100% right. The actual dimensions of your robot matter little, as long as it has an area roughly the same. I am NOT saying that a robot that is 1x4000ish pixels is a reasonable competitor to a square one with the same area, but the point is: an elliptical robot that is 68x73 is harder to hit than a rectangular one, completely by virtue of the fact that there's simply less of it!

Last edited by nXIII (2010-03-14 21:13:48)