Scratch

I say leave them alone. BUT ONLY IF THEY GIVE CREDIT. A lot of projects are meant to be passed on like this. But, if it is a game or complex animation, I say flag it.

adriangl wrote:

I too think only remixes should be allowed. I think we should be able to flag projects that are duplicates. What is the point of uploading the same project somebody else spent time on?

I agree... But you can ignore the copy - people will probably prefer the original anyways.

adriangl wrote:

technoguyx wrote:

adriangl wrote:

I too think only remixes should be allowed. I think we should be able to flag projects that are duplicates. What is the point of uploading the same project somebody else spent time on?

I agree... But you can ignore the copy - people will probably prefer the original anyways.

Not noobs who don't know what "version of" means 

There won't be many unless the copy gets to the front page or the copier is popular (very unlikely).

Last edited by technoguyx (2010-03-08 15:33:44)

People (I would normally use a different word...) steal my stuff all the time.

SW4 has been stolen many times, and I will usually have to flag them.

Ouch...
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I say it's good to flag them, unless the credit is adequate - for example...

Bad credit:

All credit to [name].

Good credit:

I DID NOT MAKE ANY OF THIS.
I saw [name]'s great project, and downloaded it... I tweaked the scripts a bit, but I preferred the original, so I just shared it as it was.

For projects with small changes, one might consider those remixes - even small, tiny changes might be considered as a remix and may prove to be useful. If there isn't confusion about credit, it might still be okay; in my opinion, I consider those not really worth flagging unless the remix was inappropriate or the credit misleading.

As for duplicate projects with full credit to the original owner, I'm against exact duplicate copies even if they give full credit. When uploading something to the Scratch website, it is uploaded under a specific user name, with the intention that (1) the uploader is the original creator or (2) the uploader has made some kind of changes to the original. Aside from the possible legal mumbo-jumbo involved, uploading an exact copy even when giving credit does not take away from the fact that none of the comments or praise are going to the original project owner - if it were me, I'd flag them down.

Now let's wait for the Scratch team to give a definite answer. 

One question: What happens if the only difference between the projects is really small, like removing a small sound? Is that close enough that it counts as a duplicate?

Jonathanpb wrote:

One question: What happens if the only difference between the projects is really small, like removing a small sound? Is that close enough that it counts as a duplicate?

I suppose the difference has to big enough that it will be noticed... otherwise what's the point? 

Adding a little comment hidden under a script is worthless.

Jonathanpb wrote:

One question: What happens if the only difference between the projects is really small, like removing a small sound? Is that close enough that it counts as a duplicate?

If it were me, I'd probably flag it if the change isn't of big significance.

Maybe you can just e-mail the Scratch Team via the 'Contact Us' form and get the definite answer you're looking for instead of waiting here? 

Jonathanpb wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

One question: What happens if the only difference between the projects is really small, like removing a small sound? Is that close enough that it counts as a duplicate?

If it were me, I'd probably flag it if the change isn't of big significance.

Maybe you can just e-mail the Scratch Team via the 'Contact Us' form and get the definite answer you're looking for instead of waiting here? 

I consider you as one of the people that can give a final answer.    I just wanted to see what the Scratch Team said... 

Anyway, no questions now. 

I wouldn't consider my answers here as being final - what you are questioning in this thread deals with a matter of the site, with which I have no hand in.

metal509 wrote:

YES!!!!!! IN PARTICULAR, LOOK AT THIS [Removed by forum moderator] WHO CHANGED THE CREDIT ON MY "Overheated!" GAME! AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAS EVER BEEN FEATURED!! [Removed by forum moderator]

SCRATCH SHOULD BAN HIS IP! HE EVEN MADE A SITE FOR IT! [Removed by forum moderator] !!!!! ALL HE DOES IT TAKE YOUR GAME, ADD HIS CREDIT/LOGO, AND CHANGE YOUR CREDIT!

press the caps lock key.
Anyone can evade IP bans, there are no unevadable bans. To evade IP bans all you have to do is restart your router, or install tor. Cookie ban? Firefox: tools > options > privacy > remove individual cookies > search for scratch > remove.

Also, why are you using scratch?
To start learning programming languages because scratch have a low learning curve. So then you'll understand C, C++, Objective C, flash, java, whatever you want. Doesn't really matter if someone stole your game, what have you really lost? You haven't lost money. You haven't lost time because you improved your scratch and general programming skills/knowledge.

metal509 wrote:

YES!!!!!! IN PARTICULAR, LOOK AT THIS [Removed by forum moderator] WHO CHANGED THE CREDIT ON MY "Overheated!" GAME! AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAS EVER BEEN FEATURED!! [Removed by forum moderator]

SCRATCH SHOULD BAN HIS IP! HE EVEN MADE A SITE FOR IT! [Removed by forum moderator] !!!!! ALL HE DOES IT TAKE YOUR GAME, ADD HIS CREDIT/LOGO, AND CHANGE YOUR CREDIT!

The best thing to do is flag the projects and contact the scratch team. Posting their username on the forums isn't the best way to report someone.

Also, please don't type in all-caps. It makes it harder to read.