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#1 2010-03-02 22:36:49

somelia
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Scratch is for Sharing

Scratch is for sharing. It's for sharing your skills and your talents. So what, if the project is just a drawing? It's still sharing skill-for art. Even though Scratch is built for programming, does every project have to have at least one script? No! If the project is empty, maybe there is something that person is sharing in the notes.

The only thing that doesn't fit in is all these quitting projects. And, if no one quit, those wouldn't be there.

AND, if there were no fighting about these "useless" projects, there would be less quitting.

So, why can't you all accept that people can share what they feel like-as long as it's appropriate? It baffles me, confuses me.  hmm

If you think I sounded harsh at the end, I didn't mean to.

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#2 2010-03-03 00:30:56

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

Yeah... I just wish people could respect other users and their projects.


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#3 2010-03-03 00:38:25

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

I wish the Scratch community could be better.  sad


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#4 2010-03-03 01:07:20

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

I'm all for showing off your art, as long as it's not just a single picture. The problem I have with 0-script projects is that there's many other places to post your art (and in higher resolution than scratch can handle) other than a site meant to teach kids programming skills. (Let's not forget the "program" part of the motto.)

I respect the artists for doing what they like, but Scratch was never meant to be an art site.

That is all.

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#5 2010-03-03 02:58:00

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

You hit the hammer right on the head somelia! No matter how good/bad the coding is. No matter how good/bad the art is. They are still imagining, programing and sharing.

Though there are still RPGers but less people care about that if it is in TBG


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#6 2010-03-03 03:41:56

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

hmnwilson wrote:

I'm all for showing off your art, as long as it's not just a single picture. The problem I have with 0-script projects is that there's many other places to post your art (and in higher resolution than scratch can handle) other than a site meant to teach kids programming skills. (Let's not forget the "program" part of the motto.)

I respect the artists for doing what they like, but Scratch was never meant to be an art site.

That is all.

cheddargirl said that sites like DeviantArt have age limits... but there are probably other sites without an age limit.  hmm


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#7 2010-03-03 04:15:55

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

Chrischb wrote:

hmnwilson wrote:

I'm all for showing off your art, as long as it's not just a single picture. The problem I have with 0-script projects is that there's many other places to post your art (and in higher resolution than scratch can handle) other than a site meant to teach kids programming skills. (Let's not forget the "program" part of the motto.)

I respect the artists for doing what they like, but Scratch was never meant to be an art site.

That is all.

cheddargirl said that sites like DeviantArt have age limits... but there are probably other sites without an age limit.  hmm

There probably are... but they're probably usually few and rather obscure.

There is one site that I recently discovered that that has no age-limits in joining: Funart-Central - However, I'm willing to bet they can state this only because they have a content filtering system (but this can be turned off so it isn't something I will recommend to younger viewers despite its lack of an age limit  hmm ). Its older sister site Fanart-Central also does not state an age limit - but again, probably because they have content filtering that can be turned off (so again, something I will not recommend to younger viewers. Additionally, I think Fanart-Central is pushing towards implementing an age limit). On top of it all, both communities, sadly, aren't that friendly either towards the younger members, either.

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As for the art thing, I haven't had any opposition to art on the Scratch website so long as the intent was to share it (which means letting other Scratchers use it). If the point is to show off the art and not share it, then an art website would be a better option than Scratch; Scratch releases projects under a Creative Commons license - definitely not the license you want to have if you don't want others using it (for legal reasons, you will want a copyright license with no permissions, which is something that most art websites cover and Scratch currently does not).

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#8 2010-03-03 05:44:08

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

Hmmm... maybe we could follow the method we used for the Text-Based Games and create a section on Scratch for people to share their art?


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#9 2010-03-03 08:13:28

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

Jonathanpb wrote:

Hmmm... maybe we could follow the method we used for the Text-Based Games and create a section on Scratch for people to share their art?

That's an interesting proposal...I wonder if that is an area that the Scratch Team is interested in getting into?


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#10 2010-03-03 10:35:52

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

No offense, but that would be a waste of time.
Sure, a few people will go their, but the rest of the 500,000 artists on Scratch won't have a clue


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#11 2010-03-03 10:40:10

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

Paddle2See wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Hmmm... maybe we could follow the method we used for the Text-Based Games and create a section on Scratch for people to share their art?

That's an interesting proposal...I wonder if that is an area that the Scratch Team is interested in getting into?

I recall a quote from andresmh a while back saying how Scratch about programming AND art - I think it would be awesome if there was a section for Scratchers to share and lend images, much like what deviantART has with their stock images and resource section.  smile


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#12 2010-03-03 10:53:37

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

cheddargirl wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Hmmm... maybe we could follow the method we used for the Text-Based Games and create a section on Scratch for people to share their art?

That's an interesting proposal...I wonder if that is an area that the Scratch Team is interested in getting into?

I recall a quote from andresmh a while back saying how Scratch about programming AND art - I think it would be awesome if there was a section for Scratchers to share and lend images, much like what deviantART has with their stock images and resource section.  smile

What's deviantart?


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#13 2010-03-03 11:01:17

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

Paradox wrote:

What's deviantart?

deviantART is an art website/online art gallery. While the site's main focus is to to be able for users to share their artistic creations on a massive scale, it also has a stock image section and resource section that allows artists to share their works and other artistic media with others so that it may be used by others to create their own art.


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#14 2010-03-03 16:56:39

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

cheddargirl wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Hmmm... maybe we could follow the method we used for the Text-Based Games and create a section on Scratch for people to share their art?

That's an interesting proposal...I wonder if that is an area that the Scratch Team is interested in getting into?

I recall a quote from andresmh a while back saying how Scratch about programming AND art - I think it would be awesome if there was a section for Scratchers to share and lend images, much like what deviantART has with their stock images and resource section.  smile

Ooh, that'd be awesome!  big_smile


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#15 2010-03-03 17:07:16

somelia
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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

I'll add something to this. Art is all right, as long as you do some programming. Maybe a slideshow type thing, with a bunch of the art you have? Or, get creative and make it interactive art?

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#16 2010-03-03 17:08:15

Chrischb
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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

That's great!  big_smile

It could hopefully stop art thieves too...

EDIT: Outposted.

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#17 2010-03-03 17:15:01

somelia
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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

Awesome for both ideas?  tongue

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#18 2010-03-03 17:29:04

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

I hate when people share art. There are so many other ways to share art, such as deviantart. I am way under the age limit but I joined anyway! Take that deviantart!


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#19 2010-03-03 18:07:32

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

program is the most important, but most forgotten.


I'm glad to think that the community will always be kind and helpful, the language will always be a fun and easy way to be introduced into programming, the motto will always be: Imagine, Program, Share - Nomolos

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#20 2010-03-05 12:14:53

somelia
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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

You are correct, but, however

some people are under the age of 13, and want to share their art.

The best place to do it, said on of my friends, is Scratch.

THe "friendly" community...

...the awesome forums...

...they think it's an art-sharing place.

It's not, but...they're still sharing!

Oh, and yes, you SHARE art, not SHOW OFF art.

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#21 2010-03-05 21:29:15

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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

I don't care if people share their art on Scratch. They're not the kind of projects I am usually interested in viewing, but it's won't kill me if they are on the site. I have found some art projects that have been really awesome and I have admired them. I think the problem with the Scratch community right now is that too many users have strong opinions about what and what not Scratch should be used for, often justifying their opinion with the motto. What people often fail to realize is that none of the words in the motto are more important than the others, and everyone has their "favorite." I agree that a separate art section would be nice, but it shouldn't be necessary if users mind their own business. If you're into art projects, post them, view them, and comment on them. If you're not, leave the artists alone.


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#22 2010-03-05 22:36:06

somelia
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Re: Scratch is for Sharing

scmb1 wrote:

I don't care if people share their art on Scratch. They're not the kind of projects I am usually interested in viewing, but it's won't kill me if they are on the site. I have found some art projects that have been really awesome and I have admired them. I think the problem with the Scratch community right now is that too many users have strong opinions about what and what not Scratch should be used for, often justifying their opinion with the motto. What people often fail to realize is that none of the words in the motto are more important than the others, and everyone has their "favorite." I agree that a separate art section would be nice, but it shouldn't be necessary if users mind their own business. If you're into art projects, post them, view them, and comment on them. If you're not, leave the artists alone.

YOU ARE CORRECT!  big_smile

I haven't been this happy in ages! Someone FINALLY sort of agrees with me! WOOOT!

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