Scratch

Dazachi wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

Oh great, now people are so upset about quitting that they are quitting themselves.  How ironic.  And not in the funny way 

Exactly.

Usually I laugh at irony, but this is different.

Paddle2See wrote:

archmage wrote:

Yeah, the frontpage's quality in order from best to worst is

1. featured
2. top loved
3. top viewed
4. top remixed

The featured projects always have some quality that makes them good.
Sometimes top loved has something good, but its mostly not that great
Top viewed is just projects from popular users for the most part, which is why some test projects get there sometimes
Top remixed are projects where people spend 1 minute adding a picture

I'm really impressed by the Curated section as well...there's some really cool stuff I'd never seen before in it.

Yeah, I was just not sure how to rank the curated position. Some users can find some really good projects, but the selection of projects varies from curator to curator.

Paddle2See wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

PlayWithFire wrote:

you know what's funny, i see all of these people complaining about it and nobody trying to fix it.

The Scratch Team doesn't seem to have noticed anything... all they seem to know about is that Inspiration and More and the Text-Based Games weren't that great. They don't seem to dislike the two forums that much - they created a new forum for the Text-Based Games and made the Miscellaneous forum.

I'd be interested in hearing some specifics about what you see as problems - and what you have for proposed solutions 

Plenty of posts in this topic explain enough. 

Last edited by Jonathanpb (2010-02-20 00:18:37)

Anyway, this is what people are saying:
• Scratch has become a social networking site
• Remixing has changed into remix chains
• People aren't really programming as much anymore
• There are people who join just for the forums and games

Sadly, the only thing we can do to fix that is by:
• Removing Miscellaneous (that'll stop people joining just for the forums and discourage social networking)
• Removing Top Remixed (that'll stop the flow of remix chains and bring back remixing)
• Discourage games on the Scratch website (it'd be crazy to search through projects and galleries removing RPGs, though - but it'd stop people joining just for the games and discourage social networking)

That's the main thing to do. But - that's so drastic! 

Last edited by Jonathanpb (2010-02-20 00:24:25)

Scratch is the only animation tool I know of that really requires you to program movements for animations. Yes you are programming, but you aren't making anything dynamic or learning and the overall process would be easier if you didn't have to use scripts.

I disagree, I find that flash is a lot easier for animations, but harder for programming. To animate in flash you don't have to know any code at all.

Jonhathan wrote:

• Discourage games on the Scratch website

Discourage games on the Scratch website? What do you mean? Scratch was desined for games, Without them, Scratch would be nothing but an art and animation site like DA(not that I have anything against art or animations). and why even consider discouraging games?

Last edited by Targethero (2010-02-20 13:18:11)

archmage wrote:

I disagree, I find that flash is a lot easier for animations, but harder for programming. To animate in flash you don't have to know any code at all.

The problem is it costs. A lot.

And my dad hates spending money.

That was me on my sister's account. O_O"

Anyways, I think I might "quit" the forums. There is nothing fun left anymore. 

Jonathanpb wrote:

• Removing Miscellaneous (that'll stop people joining just for the forums and discourage social networking)

In my opinion that won’t solve anything, if Miscellaneous was removed that miscellaneous threads would start popping up in all other Scratch forums, especially Show and Tell, clogging, clustering and possibly ruining them. Miscellanies/ Inspiration and More was created, not only as a place to post threads that don’t have to directly relate to Scratch, but to act as a filter if you will, to keep random threads from cluttering the other forums that are important to clean and organized such as Show and Tell, Announcements or Suggestions.

Jonathanpb wrote:

• Discourage games on the Scratch website

….What? I fail to see how this will help anything. That doesn’t make any sense, enough said.

Jonathanpb wrote:

But - that's so drastic! 

Yes, and also unnecessary.

soupoftomato wrote:

warioandbob wrote:

That's too bad. I joined in late 2009, so I guess I missed the glory days of this place. I try to be nice, only upload good projects, and be helpful, but no ones perfect. Maybe this will be the year things turn around...

(before we all die in 2012)

Please don't bring that 2012 thing, it's not true, and all the users will "harass" you.

"Harass"? LOL. 
That was epic! 

Paradox wrote:

rdococ wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Please don't bring that 2012 thing, it's not true, and all the users will "harass" you.

"Harass"? LOL. 
That was epic! 

...
Not really

Yeah it is