Scratch

GirWaffles64 wrote:

I came in 07', but my account doesn't say that XD

I do think Scratch is getting worse, but I'm not gonna be tired of it for a loooong time.

I miss 07, where I was a bystander in a growing community, watching as hanley4 was geting taught by newbiez and nikki was coming out with the first few Heroine Lisas...

...when there was no gabby to a maho...

...when there was no RHY vs. DC...

...where the WOTF were watching the latest Scratch animations...

...where Scratch was purest.

What's with the WoTF?

archmage wrote:

I like featured better because you can't get into it just by being well known.

Yeah - it's the exact opposite. Unknown scratchers with meaningful projects (or something) I believe it is.

archmage wrote:

I personally like art, art is nice and takes a lot of skill to make. The issue I have with art taking over scratch is that scratch is primarily made for programming but most users now tend to make pictures or social projects because its easier. Scratch is a good tool for learning the basics of programming and a pretty poor tool for art and animation so in making these kinds of projects its abilities are not being used.

What about animations? What's your take on those?

For a beginning animator, it's really nice. You can actually make really smooth animations.

Paddle2See wrote:

BWOG wrote:

Art projects: I have no problem with, unless they clutter up the front page. Because Scratch is for programming, not art. If you want to post art, then go to Deviantart and make an account. And since Scratch is for programming, non-programming stuff should NOT get on the front page.

After reading the Terms of Service at DeviantArt, they are pretty clear that you need to be over 18

Only t' see th' innapropriate stuff, in't it?

Paddle2See wrote:

Deviant Art's Terms of Service wrote:

... In no event may minors submit Content to the Service...

Can you recommend another site where kids can post art?

Imageshack, a wonderful, magical tool!
Th' only thing ya got's t' to do is sign up and then y'all 're set!

littletonkslover wrote:

archmage wrote:

Ok, let me point out somethings that are wrong with it

-No camera
-Horrible art tool with huge pixels
-Horrible movement methods, you have to code and sync all movements with blocks
-Music makes animations go out of sync
-You can't move things offstage
-more that I won't bother listing

For a beginning programming tool its nice, but its not a very strong animation tool.

-There is a camera in 1.4.
-Art tool is at least better than paint........for me, at least. Good for sprites.
-Easy to learn
-Maybe.......
-But you can get it incredibly close to, and then you can to the hide button.
-Not a reason 

@ At Paradox.

That's what I keep telling some people. Well, the first part. A lot of people don't listen though, like me.

Did you tell them the way I said it? I was re-reading my post and couldn't for the life of me understand what I wrote at all

archmage wrote:

littletonkslover wrote:

archmage wrote:

Ok, let me point out somethings that are wrong with it

-No camera
-Horrible art tool with huge pixels
-Horrible movement methods, you have to code and sync all movements with blocks
-Music makes animations go out of sync
-You can't move things offstage
-more that I won't bother listing

For a beginning programming tool its nice, but its not a very strong animation tool.

-There is a camera in 1.4.
-Art tool is at least better than paint........for me, at least. Good for sprites.
-Easy to learn
-Maybe.......
-But you can get it incredibly close to, and then you can to the hide button.
-Not a reason 

@ At Paradox.

That's what I keep telling some people. Well, the first part. A lot of people don't listen though, like me.

-There has never been a camera in scratch
-At least paint doesn't have huge pixels and a limited screen size. Its probably worse than paint.
-Its easy to learn, but you spend too much time putting blocks together which is unnecessary for an artist

Here is more:
-No layers
-Poor colour picker
-No individual frame editing
-Very limited art abilities
-No vector options

I really want to emphasize that frame editing thing. It would be much easier to make...well, a lot of stuff if Scratch had the capability to edit frames individually.

By vectors you mean x and y, right?

archmage wrote:

littletonkslover wrote:

archmage wrote:

Ok, let me point out somethings that are wrong with it

-No camera
-Horrible art tool with huge pixels
-Horrible movement methods, you have to code and sync all movements with blocks
-Music makes animations go out of sync
-You can't move things offstage
-more that I won't bother listing

For a beginning programming tool its nice, but its not a very strong animation tool.

-There is a camera in 1.4.
-Art tool is at least better than paint........for me, at least. Good for sprites.
-Easy to learn
-Maybe.......
-But you can get it incredibly close to, and then you can to the hide button.
-Not a reason 

@ At Paradox.

That's what I keep telling some people. Well, the first part. A lot of people don't listen though, like me.

-There has never been a camera in scratch
-At least paint doesn't have huge pixels and a limited screen size. Its probably worse than paint.
-Its easy to learn, but you spend too much time putting blocks together which is unnecessary for an artist

Here is more:
-No layers that you can properly manage
-Poor colour picker
-No individual frame editing
-Very limited art abilities
-No vector options

This is exactly why I animate sprites using an outside program, like Beneton, and then import them into Scratch.

It just comes out better.

The thing is, using scripts for programs with art in them is ok, but using scripts in something that is just a picture or animation is not productive. There are other free programs that do a much better job at just animating and just making pictures.

Paddle2See wrote:

archmage wrote:

Yeah, the frontpage's quality in order from best to worst is

1. featured
2. top loved
3. top viewed
4. top remixed

The featured projects always have some quality that makes them good.
Sometimes top loved has something good, but its mostly not that great
Top viewed is just projects from popular users for the most part, which is why some test projects get there sometimes
Top remixed are projects where people spend 1 minute adding a picture

I'm really impressed by the Curated section as well...there's some really cool stuff I'd never seen before in it.

Especially when the curator focuses on unknown projects or projects of a certain type.

I like the featured section and the curated section. Also sometimes the top loved section.

Oh great, now people are so upset about quitting that they are quitting themselves.  How ironic.  And not in the funny way