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Speaking of Politics, I've never seen any type of thread like that on Scratch.

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

Okay about the Discussing the Guidelines in this thread: What if we don't know if the topic is flamebait and we wake up with a ban?

Well, it's possible that could happen, but probably only rarely. Its up to everyone to be careful to be respectful.

It's impossible to write down rules that would cover ever single situation or flamebait topic that someone could think of. So how to define flamebait? We know it when we see it, and most of you do too.   

hmnwilson wrote:

D:

Before we do anything too drastic, let's consider the other options.

• Moving Misc. to a new forum (like the TBGs)
• Making it unavailable unless you have a certain number of posts in the rest of the forums
• Making a new rule against discussing religion and politics
• Any combination of the above

We don't need to close it, even the offtopic forums can be a part of the community. And a lot of people would be disappointed to see it gone. 

You know what? I completely agree.    They have a rule anout Number 3 that you posted,
but I agree with everything else you said.        

Lucario621 wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Mayhem wrote:

Not at all, since if I wanted to complain about religion I could make a project doing so. 

It could sit right alongside the two religious projects I made.

And then, presumably, I could promote that project in the Show and Tell forum.

And my comments have never been complaining about religion, per se - they have been reactions to people posting that theirs is the only right religion, especially if they attack science to do so.

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Hmm...  you know, those guidelines say nothing about science.  So I could go start a pro-evolution thread, or a pro-big-bang thread, on a purely scientific, not related to religion at all, basis.  And any arguments against evolution or the big bang would have to be presented in an equally scientific way, or fall foul of the no religion rules...

If you're going to make a topic against evolution as a workaround for discussing religion, that'll probably get closed - it's still trying to get the same point.

I'm not so sure. If his Religion thread is allowed, so shall be everything else science. So as politics.

Religion isn't exactly in the science catogory...

And religious topics aren't allowed anymore. 

Maybe Mayhem should just look for a forum that actually have people that actually care about proving kids wrong about their God.

"The Proving Each other Wrong About our Beliefs Forum" perhaps.

Lucario621 wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

That takes time and effort that takes away from time that could be spent addressing Scratch related issues.

I understand what you mean, but how much DO you spend addressing Scratch related issues? On the suggestion forums, few of the mods/scratch team members ever post, giving feedback, or even elaborating. Why is that. WHY IS THAT?

Well, no need to raise your voice - but you do have a point! 

I sometimes cruise those forums and chime in (more so a few weeks ago)- but often I tend to lurk. A bunch of times I've been reading the thread, about to answer a question when I see that a helpful Scratchers has already done so - which is great! All the same, I do plan to dive into Suggestions more often. Also, I'm working on making a brief 'Scratch Design Principles for Scratchers' page that talks about stuff Scratch Team considers when thinking about what to add to the next version of Scratch. I think it will be helpful / interesting for Scratchers to see.  It'll also talk about good ways to demo / think through suggestions for Scratch. This is especially important while we're thinking through Scratch 2.0 because we want a lot of feedback from the community (see the Scratch 2.0 thread).

So - all that's to say that we do plan to be more active in Suggestions, etc. 

Lightnin wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

That takes time and effort that takes away from time that could be spent addressing Scratch related issues.

I understand what you mean, but how much DO you spend addressing Scratch related issues? On the suggestion forums, few of the mods/scratch team members ever post, giving feedback, or even elaborating. Why is that. WHY IS THAT?

Well, no need to raise your voice - but you do have a point! 

I sometimes cruise those forums and chime in (more so a few weeks ago)- but often I tend to lurk. A bunch of times I've been reading the thread, about to answer a question when I see that a helpful Scratchers has already done so - which is great! All the same, I do plan to dive into Suggestions more often. Also, I'm working on making a brief 'Scratch Design Principles for Scratchers' page that talks about stuff Scratch Team considers when thinking about what to add to the next version of Scratch. I think it will be helpful / interesting for Scratchers to see.  It'll also talk about good ways to demo / think through suggestions for Scratch. This is especially important while we're thinking through Scratch 2.0 because we want a lot of feedback from the community (see the Scratch 2.0 thread).

So - all that's to say that we do plan to be more active in Suggestions, etc. 

What I like about you and Paddle is that you give your voices sometimes. 

Sometimes, though. Plenty of times we wish that the Scratch Team would give their opinions in stuff and post in more topics.    I love it whenever I see one of you post in an innocent topic.

Maybe you guys could try and show yourselves more? 

Lightnin wrote:

Well, no need to raise your voice

Lol... Putting capitals could also mean a different type of emphasis other than italics though, but I think he was 'cyber shouting' in this case. << (Learned all of this stuff from a lame magazine trying to be cool)

Last edited by Ace-of-Spades (2010-02-20 12:35:13)

darkknuckles wrote:

So This Is Why The Old Insperation & More Closed!

No, the old Inspiration and More closed because this is the inspiration and more and they wanted to organize it. Or so I've heard.

Closing these forums is a horrible move. You will lose mny users because of it.

lonwol wrote:

Closing these forums is a horrible move. You will lose mny users because of it.

Yes, but the majority of those users are most likely going to be the users that stopped using scratch, and just go on the forums to talk and socialize, and don't really care about scratch that much. That's why it doesn't matter.

Yeah, I have seen some stuff lately that shouldn't be posted here. Stuff about religion. I think these posters (not mentioning ANYONE) should really cut it out. The joke's over, guys. And its NOT funny    ESPECIALLY YOU, spammers.

somelia wrote:

Let's not fight.
It's not right.

STOP BUMPING OLD TOPICS. THIS WAS FROM LIKE A MONTH AGO.

SERIOUSLY, YOU'RE STARTING TO ANNOY ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a

Last edited by 08jackt (2010-04-10 22:58:43)