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#1 2009-11-21 17:37:40

milkotv
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Run Scratch without installing it (Linux Live CD ?)

Hi
Hi recently volunteered to teach Scratch in a club in my 11 years old daughter's school.
Unfortunately, my application was denied because the IT department in the school did not allow any applications to be installed.

Got the idea of creating a Linux Live CD with Ubuntu 9.10 and Scratch installed on it - not an easy task. Remastersys tool that claims to automate this on Ubuntu does not work well - the ISO's which it creates do not boot for various reasons.

So, is there another way of running Scratch without installing it?

The students really will need a floppy disk (allowed by schools IT geniuses) to save their projects.

Thank you

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#2 2009-11-21 17:44:49

Greatdane
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Re: Run Scratch without installing it (Linux Live CD ?)

I'm not too sure, but what you can do is:

#1: Look for the Scratch 'program files' folder
#2: Copy the files 'Scratch.exe' and 'Scratch.image' into your USB/floppy disk
#3: When opening Scratch, double click the 'exe' file and select the image.

Hope it helps! Its worked for me before...


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#3 2009-11-21 17:50:01

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Re: Run Scratch without installing it (Linux Live CD ?)

I actually made a little .ZIP file to help you. It contains all you need.

Click this to download


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#4 2009-11-21 17:51:33

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Re: Run Scratch without installing it (Linux Live CD ?)

Follow the readme, but just click 'Scratch1.4.image' instead.

Hope it helps!


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#5 2009-11-21 18:17:07

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Re: Run Scratch without installing it (Linux Live CD ?)

Greatdane, this is Linux.


Linux can not run EXEs


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#6 2009-11-21 18:36:42

JSO
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Re: Run Scratch without installing it (Linux Live CD ?)

milkotv says he runs it from a bootable linux Cd. What operating systems are the PC's currently using and why would you need to install a whole OS on a disc just to run Scratch?

Floppy Disk ?!? That's 1.4 MB, about 1/7th of the maximum upload size on this site. Students will probably very limited by this lack of disc space.

If there is internet availabe, I recommend uploading to this site and downloading from home (? if needed)  When you upload with the same name the project is updated online.

If Windows is used, just dump all files inside the installed Scratch folder on one or more discs and run the Scratch program from there. Be careful when students browse for images etc outside this disc Since scratch tends to spread out quite some ScratchThumbs.db files  sad  I wish we could turn that off...


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#7 2009-11-21 18:57:41

Greatdane
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Re: Run Scratch without installing it (Linux Live CD ?)

gershmer wrote:

Greatdane, this is Linux.


Linux can not run EXEs

They're not talking about linux. They are talking about using linux to run scratch, but not linux itself.


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#8 2009-11-21 20:37:18

gershmer
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Re: Run Scratch without installing it (Linux Live CD ?)

^ That doesn't quite make sense.


Why bother burning the Linux part? Just grab a thumb-drive and run Scratch from that.


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#9 2009-11-22 16:30:00

nerddownthestreet
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Re: Run Scratch without installing it (Linux Live CD ?)

If you're just trying to run Scratch on the computers, you should first download the scratch zip at http://download.scratch.mit.edu/WinScratch1.4.zip.  Then, place it on a network share that is accessible to all the students if you're school has servers.  If your school doesn't, you could just direct them to the scratch zip link that I listed before.  Both of these options don't require Linux.  If you REALLY want to use Ubuntu, try installing Ubuntu 9.04 on a test computer and then installing Scratch in this, followed by making a Remastersys CD.  I did this and it worked flawlessly.  Be sure you select the "dist" option also.

Hope this helps!

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#10 2009-11-23 09:52:27

milkotv
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Re: Run Scratch without installing it (Linux Live CD ?)

Hi Guys
First, t oanswer 'gershmer' -  most of today's Linux distributions can run windows EXEs just fine via Vine tool.

What I tried doing was on Ubuntu 9.10 to install the Linux version of Scratch and then create a Live CD using Remastersys. Unfortunatelly, Remastersys is not very stable on Ubuntu 9.10 and gave me lots of problems. Doing the Live CD manually is quite a pain too.

Thanks to Greatdane's idea, at the end, I just tried burning a CD with Scratch binaries and try executing them WITHOUT any installation (which was the requirement from my daughter school's IT).

It worked fine on XP.
I guess XP distribution has all DLLs needed by Scratch (crtdll.dll, ...).

I guess the problem is solved :-)

Thank you

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#11 2010-02-06 11:35:58

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Re: Run Scratch without installing it (Linux Live CD ?)

They do have Scratch for Linux. I did Scratch on Linux (until it got screwed).


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#12 2010-02-06 11:52:53

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Re: Run Scratch without installing it (Linux Live CD ?)

ElectricSparx wrote:

They do have Scratch for Linux. I did Scratch on Linux (until it got screwed).

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