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#26 2010-01-28 19:35:05

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

RHY3756547 wrote:

illusionist wrote:

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The simple explanation:

There is no 4th dimension. People made it up.  tongue

2D creatures have no reason to believe in the 3rd dimension if what you say is true.  tongue

Indeed.

And 1D creatures just fail life.  lol


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#27 2010-01-28 19:35:41

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

RHY3756547 wrote:

The simple explanation:

There is no 4th dimension. People made it up.  tongue

They didn't make it up, rather, it's a developing theory.


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#28 2010-01-28 19:36:01

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Greatdane wrote:

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No, I get every word
It's just that a shadow can't be 3D or it's not a shadow

How do you know, smartypants?

Because it is? Have you ever seen a 3D shadow? That would be like one of those starwars holograms which we don't have the technology to make yet


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#29 2010-01-28 19:36:25

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

illusionist wrote:

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

No, it is EVERY point between where an object is and where it will be.  Lot's of points to shine a light on...

Duh. That's time travelling.

You seem to have worked up quite an attitude lately.  hmm

If you don't have anything polite to say, then done say anything at all.

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#30 2010-01-28 19:38:28

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Mr_X wrote:

Greatdane wrote:

Mr_X wrote:

No, I get every word
It's just that a shadow can't be 3D or it's not a shadow

How do you know, smartypants?

Because it is? Have you ever seen a 3D shadow? That would be like one of those starwars holograms which we don't have the technology to make yet

You are 3D and can only see 2D shadows.

In the 4th dimension there are 3D shadows.
In the 2nd dimension there are 1D shadows.
In the 1st dimension there are 0D shadows.

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#31 2010-01-28 19:39:51

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Mr_X wrote:

Greatdane wrote:

Mr_X wrote:

No, I get every word
It's just that a shadow can't be 3D or it's not a shadow

How do you know, smartypants?

Because it is? Have you ever seen a 3D shadow? That would be like one of those starwars holograms which we don't have the technology to make yet

You can only see a 3D shadow in the 4rth dimension, where you are not.  And don't say the 4th dimension is just time, so you are in it, because you are not.


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#32 2010-01-28 19:40:48

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

illusionist wrote:

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

Duh. That's time travelling.

You seem to have worked up quite an attitude lately.  hmm

If you don't have anything polite to say, then done say anything at all.

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#33 2010-01-28 19:44:38

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Check out the 2 videos that I just posted earlier - it shows all of the 10 dimensions. They're pretty interesting...


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#34 2010-01-28 19:45:46

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Lucario621 wrote:

Check out the 2 videos that I just posted earlier - it shows all of the 10 dimensions. They're pretty interesting...

I saw that last week.  smile

...fascinating


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#35 2010-01-28 19:45:50

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Kileymeister wrote:

Mr_X wrote:

Greatdane wrote:


How do you know, smartypants?

Because it is? Have you ever seen a 3D shadow? That would be like one of those starwars holograms which we don't have the technology to make yet

You can only see a 3D shadow in the 4rth dimension, where you are not.  And don't say the 4th dimension is just time, so you are in it, because you are not.

I wasn't gonna say that, and also how would that be possible? a grey cube floating around or something? That would be weird

Anyway a couple of years ago I heard that there was gonna be a movie in 4D
Needless to say, there wasn't.
But the people making up that story at school said that it was gonna be like you were actually in the movie and not just the 3d like in today's theatres

Anyway if you put 2 lights on diagonal to you then what do you call the shadow they mix into?


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#36 2010-01-28 19:48:21

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Mr_X wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

Mr_X wrote:


Because it is? Have you ever seen a 3D shadow? That would be like one of those starwars holograms which we don't have the technology to make yet

You can only see a 3D shadow in the 4rth dimension, where you are not.  And don't say the 4th dimension is just time, so you are in it, because you are not.

I wasn't gonna say that, and also how would that be possible? a grey cube floating around or something? That would be weird

Anyway a couple of years ago I heard that there was gonna be a movie in 4D
Needless to say, there wasn't.
But the people making up that story at school said that it was gonna be like you were actually in the movie and not just the 3d like in today's theatres

I saw ads for that when I visited Canada...

It sounded fake to me.  tongue

Anyway if you put 2 lights on diagonal to you then what do you call the shadow they mix into?

A shadow.


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#37 2010-01-28 19:54:19

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Wrong! Super shadow!  big_smile

Also about the movie
Was it scrapped or something? I never heard anything about it since

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#38 2010-01-28 19:55:29

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Mr_X wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

Mr_X wrote:


Because it is? Have you ever seen a 3D shadow? That would be like one of those starwars holograms which we don't have the technology to make yet

You can only see a 3D shadow in the 4rth dimension, where you are not.  And don't say the 4th dimension is just time, so you are in it, because you are not.

I wasn't gonna say that, and also how would that be possible? a grey cube floating around or something? That would be weird

Anyway a couple of years ago I heard that there was gonna be a movie in 4D
Needless to say, there wasn't.
But the people making up that story at school said that it was gonna be like you were actually in the movie and not just the 3d like in today's theatres

Anyway if you put 2 lights on diagonal to you then what do you call the shadow they mix into?

THAT 4D is just stuff hitting you in the face when the hero gets hit in the face, to make it seem real.

Very cheesey  tongue


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#39 2010-01-28 19:57:51

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

About the 1st dimension: It's nothing. It's practically a small dot, and it'll never be anything more. So that means it's shadows are non existant. The Zero Dimension doesn't exist, and frankly, I've never heard of it till now. You just pulled it out of your, uh, hat when making this topic.

Meanwhile in the 2nd Dimension, you're talking about shadows being 1 dimensional. Are you aware of what dimensions are? The 2nd Dimension can be found on a piece of paper. What makes you think it has shadows? If it did, they would be 2 dimensional too. So that would completely break away your base of the 4th dimension having 3D shadows.


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#40 2010-01-28 19:58:54

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So if it's a 4D Jackie Chan movie, a pair of robot hands beat you up while you're watching the movie


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#41 2010-01-28 19:59:15

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

About the 1st dimension: It's nothing. It's practically a small dot, and it'll never be anything more. So that means it's shadows are non existant. The Zero Dimension doesn't exist, and frankly, I've never heard of it till now. You just pulled it out of your, uh, hat when making this topic.

Meanwhile in the 2nd Dimension, you're talking about shadows being 1 dimensional. Are you aware of what dimensions are? The 2nd Dimension can be found on a piece of paper. What makes you think it has shadows? If it did, they would be 2 dimensional too. So that would completely break away your base of the 4th dimension having 3D shadows.

Ok, wait.

1st dimension = a line, not a point.
0th dimension = THAT is the one point thing

So 2D shadows are lines that appear to be shadows.  Simple.

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#42 2010-01-28 20:02:51

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Mr_X wrote:

So if it's a 4D Jackie Chan movie, a pair of robot hands beat you up while you're watching the movie

Scary. O_O


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#43 2010-01-28 20:04:00

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

illusionist wrote:

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

illusionist wrote:

You seem to have worked up quite an attitude lately.  hmm

If you don't have anything polite to say, then done say anything at all.

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#44 2010-01-28 20:06:27

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Mr_X wrote:

So if it's a 4D Jackie Chan movie, a pair of robot hands beat you up while you're watching the movie

Yes, and its extremely painful. But awsome.  tongue


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#45 2010-01-28 20:09:08

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

About the 1st dimension: It's nothing. It's practically a small dot, and it'll never be anything more. So that means it's shadows are non existant. The Zero Dimension doesn't exist, and frankly, I've never heard of it till now. You just pulled it out of your, uh, hat when making this topic.

Meanwhile in the 2nd Dimension, you're talking about shadows being 1 dimensional. Are you aware of what dimensions are? The 2nd Dimension can be found on a piece of paper. What makes you think it has shadows? If it did, they would be 2 dimensional too. So that would completely break away your base of the 4th dimension having 3D shadows.

The first dimension is a line. Heres a breif explanation of the first few dimensions.

0th dimension - A point
1st dimension - A line (length)
2nd dimension - A split (width)
3rd dimension - A fold (depth)
4th dimension - A line - showing something from one point in time, to another (duration)
5th dimension - A split - showing all of the possibilities by the choices we make


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#46 2010-01-28 20:16:25

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

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#47 2010-01-28 20:17:46

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The 5th dimension? Now that's a load. Where's the scientific evidence that any of these extra dimensions exist?


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#48 2010-01-28 20:20:46

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

The 5th dimension? Now that's a load. Where's the scientific evidence that any of these extra dimensions exist?

Look at the link to 2 youtube videos I posted at the end of the first page. Its part 1 and 2. It explains about 11 dimensions.


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#49 2010-01-28 22:09:41

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

The fourth dimension is time, by Einstein's reckoning. I suppose it would cast a 3-D shadow if it was in a 4-D world, but I don't think anyone can actually comprehend that.

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#50 2010-01-28 22:12:07

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Re: The Fourth Dimiension

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

The 5th dimension? Now that's a load. Where's the scientific evidence that any of these extra dimensions exist?

Right now, there is a 2D shape complaining about the 3rd dimension.  tongue


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