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#1 2010-01-13 11:49:48

juststickman
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Warning?

A lot of people have gotten minor warnings such as (not exact quote): 'The scratch team encourages remixing. Remixed projects are appropriate."

Some people have no idea what they did, so I'm suggesting that when you get a warning, you also get a link to the problem or something so that you can figure out what you did wrong.

For example, if you got a warning for a "disrespectful comment" and had commented on a lot of projects (and didn't think anything qualified as  "disrespectful"), how can you figure out which one of the comments was the disrespectful one? (if you had one comment, then it would be simple).

I think the rules should be a bit clearer, examples:

1. " Be respectful"
Sometimes what you consider just a little joke is considered disrespect by the scratch team.

2. "Offer constructive comments."
Nothing I can think of.

3. "Give credit."
How much credit is questionable. Wether or not it is ok just for credit to be a "based on" below the sharer's name should be clarified (I believe I have gotten a warning because I thought there wasn't enough credit).

4. "Help keep the site friendly"
There is an "if you feel" bit, so I can't think of anything wrong.


Never say "use appropriate..." something because different people think of different things as appropriate.


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#2 2010-01-13 14:37:35

Lightnin
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Re: Warning?

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this! Let me respond to a few of your points -

juststickman wrote:

A lot of people have gotten minor warnings such as (not exact quote): 'The scratch team encourages remixing. Remixed projects are appropriate."

Some people have no idea what they did, so I'm suggesting that when you get a warning, you also get a link to the problem or something so that you can figure out what you did wrong.

For example, if you got a warning for a "disrespectful comment" and had commented on a lot of projects (and didn't think anything qualified as  "disrespectful"), how can you figure out which one of the comments was the disrespectful one? (if you had one comment, then it would be simple).

It's easy to imagine some situations in which this would be helpful. But it seems like in most cases when the Scratch Team notifies a Scratcher, it's pretty clear what was said or done that was disrespectful. If a Scratcher doesn't understand why they got a notification, they can easily use the "contact us" link to ask the Scratch Team for clarification.

juststickman wrote:

3. "Give credit."
How much credit is questionable. Wether or not it is ok just for credit to be a "based on" below the sharer's name should be clarified (I believe I have gotten a warning because I thought there wasn't enough credit).

Yeah, this one is tricky.   smile   When we added the "based on" link, we wondered if Scratchers would feel that it alone gave enough credit. It seems like most people in the community feel that it's best to give credit in the notes as well.

When Scratchers see a project that they feel doesn't give enough credit, it's best if they politely ask the owner to give credit in the project notes. If after a few days the project owner hasn't done this, flag the project and include a link to the original project in the flag explanation. We'll take it from there.

juststickman wrote:

Never say "use appropriate..." something because different people think of different things as appropriate.

It's true that different people have different ideas about propriety. But rather than spell out every single thing that is or is isn't appropriate, we rely mostly on common sense. If we chose to spell out every little thing that is or is not appropriate, pretty soon we'd have a really really long list. When lists of rules are really long, people generally don't read them.
If we did make a big list and someone did something disrespectful that wasn't on it, they'll be like - 'Hey, it's not on the list, so I can't be in trouble, right?' Then we'd have to go add it to the list, which would make it even longer....
So that's one reason we like to keep our guidelines really brief and succinct. We don't describe exactly what we think of as disrespectful or inappropriate, but we pretty much know it when we see it. And, for the most part, Scratchers do too.  smile


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#3 2010-01-13 20:44:10

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Re: Warning?

Lightnin wrote:

...we rely mostly on common sense.

Generally, that is something the human race is incapable of using.


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#4 2010-01-14 10:40:15

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Re: Warning?

cocoanut wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

...we rely mostly on common sense.

Generally, that is something the human race is incapable of using.

Very true ^_^"


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#5 2010-01-14 11:14:20

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Re: Warning?

Not really. People have common sense. When needed. And certainly not online.

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#6 2010-01-14 19:14:34

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Re: Warning?

filo5 wrote:

Not really. People have common sense. When needed. And certainly not online.

Yes, but do they often put it to use?


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#7 2010-01-14 19:47:01

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Re: Warning?

cocoanut wrote:

filo5 wrote:

Not really. People have common sense. When needed. And certainly not online.

Yes, but do they often put it to use?

Depends on the human.


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#8 2010-01-17 05:54:37

juststickman
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Re: Warning?

pokemorph wrote:

cocoanut wrote:

filo5 wrote:

Not really. People have common sense. When needed. And certainly not online.

Yes, but do they often put it to use?

Depends on the human.

In my case, I use it 42% of the time and think about using it 84% of the time.


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#9 2010-01-17 07:19:09

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Re: Warning?

This is turning into a philosophical discussion of anthropology , I see. ^^


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