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#26 2009-12-27 17:51:20

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

3D won't be happening.


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#27 2009-12-28 11:29:59

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

Chrischb wrote:

3D won't be happening.

I agree: Scratch was meant to be simple and useful, and 3D destroys that completely, especially given that Scratch uses tumultuous amounts of processing power and 3D wouldn't help with the reduction.

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#28 2009-12-28 19:43:18

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

coolstuff wrote:

Chrischb wrote:

3D won't be happening.

I agree: Scratch was meant to be simple and useful, and 3D destroys that completely, especially given that Scratch uses tumultuous amounts of processing power and 3D wouldn't help with the reduction.

I don't think that was exactly why... xP


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#29 2009-12-28 19:56:08

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

JSO wrote:

funkymonkey - not really, The scratch application in which you design your projects works on Squeak, the project player on the website is a Java applet. Since a DS, PSP, PocketPC/Windows Mobile, ... don't support Java, it might not be the right choice to make. Softboard did use a Java program on the Samsung phones because all Samsungs have Java built in.

That's why I suggested squeak, it's more difficult to set up on your mobile but easier to develop - we could just start off the current Scratch source code.

I know a number of LG's have Java built in as well. So yes, this is a great idea although it makes me think hard about how its going to work. The simple idea about just playing projects you put forward earlier is good, but what about how scratch projects commonly require clicking and the keyboard?


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#30 2009-12-28 23:08:08

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

This place would make so much money with this idea! Mabye enough to upgrade the server!  big_smile


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#31 2009-12-29 21:27:10

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

have it for ds! I would buy it! you could make, or play games. Scripts go on bottom screen, game o ntop. Press select to switch screens.


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#32 2010-01-01 13:29:37

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

Chatter wrote:

This place would make so much money with this idea! Mabye enough to upgrade the server!  big_smile

Scratch is supposed to be free. Especially given the liscensing they have, they aren't allowed to sell it for money.

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#33 2010-01-03 16:55:49

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

if you ask me there should be an app for the ipod touch/iphone that makes scratch projects that can be played on the device or uploaded/downloadef from/too a computor. there should be accellaromitor block, multi touch block, mabey bluetooth, battery life monitor!!!, micraphone (sound level and speech reconition if possible) and mabey more. these could be instead of the keeyboard block? if needed and should be hideable (like the motor blocks) if you want to make a project compatiable with a computor.
it should have multiple screens (stage, scripts, costumes, sprites etc)
it should be able to publish to an app (like you can open it as a stand allone app, without scratch) if possible
the screens should change to suit the position (landscape or portrate)

if you can do all that, it would be awesome  smile   smile

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#34 2010-01-03 18:06:31

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

alexpja wrote:

Yea! I have an iPod Touch and WANT SCRATCH!

Woot

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#35 2010-01-04 00:47:01

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

wigity wrote:

if you ask me there should be an app for the ipod touch/iphone that makes scratch projects that can be played on the device or uploaded/downloadef from/too a computor. there should be accellaromitor block, multi touch block, mabey bluetooth, battery life monitor!!!, micraphone (sound level and speech reconition if possible) and mabey more. these could be instead of the keeyboard block? if needed and should be hideable (like the motor blocks) if you want to make a project compatiable with a computor.
it should have multiple screens (stage, scripts, costumes, sprites etc)
it should be able to publish to an app (like you can open it as a stand allone app, without scratch) if possible
the screens should change to suit the position (landscape or portrate)

if you can do all that, it would be awesome  smile   smile

Okay, think.

If you wanted it to sense movement, how would you sense it? How would you make a block sense different areas? I can think of several ways, but they're all silly.
If you wanted to use a block that senses keys, how would you do that? iPod touch/iphones, for example, have a keyboard that appears on the screen, but that takes up a lot of space.

And... none of them can support Squeak.


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#36 2010-01-06 05:54:37

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

I have a GP2X Wiz, which is a handheld game console, emulator, media player etc.
It runs a Linux-based OS, so it's possible to make your own applications (which many people have done).
So it would probably work pretty good to convert Scratch to make it be able to run on the GP2X Wiz.
The Wiz has some pretty good hardware too:
CPU: 533MHz ARM9 (overclockable to 800MHz)
RAM: SDRAM 64 MB
It also has touch screen.



Read more on...
Wikiepdia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X_Wiz

The official website: http://gp2xwiz.com/

File archive where you can download apps, emulators, games and development tools:
http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/wiz.cgi

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#37 2010-01-11 09:19:30

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

jacool wrote:

I have a GP2X Wiz, which is a handheld game console, emulator, media player etc.
It runs a Linux-based OS, so it's possible to make your own applications (which many people have done).
So it would probably work pretty good to convert Scratch to make it be able to run on the GP2X Wiz.
The Wiz has some pretty good hardware too:
CPU: 533MHz ARM9 (overclockable to 800MHz)
RAM: SDRAM 64 MB
It also has touch screen.



Read more on...
Wikiepdia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X_Wiz

The official website: http://gp2xwiz.com/

File archive where you can download apps, emulators, games and development tools:
http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/wiz.cgi

The toolchain is only for Linux, and my other computer running Linux doesn't work right now  sad


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#38 2010-01-11 16:28:05

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

alexpja wrote:

Yea! I have an iPod Touch and WANT SCRATCH!

me too


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#39 2010-01-11 17:06:22

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

JSO wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

Since when is the DS lacking sound? (I read the text in the link)

t lacks (among other things) sound support and a virtual keyboard.

The DS isn't lacking sound, "it" is the VM port  smile

Oh sorry. I didn't read closely enough...

Before you read any of this, let me just mention that I'm only talking about the DS right now. Also I might say DS or DSi, but for the most part I mean DSi, because there, is a shop where you would be able to download the app.

But overall I do think for there should be a scratch app, just for playing games. The only problem is typing.

My idea for the typing problem, is that when you start a game, the project is on the bottom screen (touchable screen). If you want to type, you have to tap a button on a screen, or possibly press the start or select button on the DS, and if would go into typing mode. The keyboard would be on the bottom screen (touch screen), and the game would continue to play on the top screen (not touchable). That way you can actually still shoot for an example in a game and what not, though you can't shoot and reload or something. Another possible idea, is that when we actually get Scratch for the DS, for the next version of scratch, you could set different controls for a DS (the DS has a control pad (left right down up), A, B , X, Y, Start, Select, L, and R). Also on the front page you could see games that are featured for the DS. Just like there is a normal Featured Project section, there would also be Featured Projects for Nintendo DSi.

Nevertheless, for the most part, people would have to make games that are designed specifically for the DS, because of the limitations. When you start this program up, you'd go to the main menu. There would be two buttons; Play Game, and Go Online. In Play Game, you could play games from what you have downloaded onto your limited DS Storage, or you could play games from your SD Card, which you can insert into your DSi. For Go Online, you would go to a special website. There would be multiple places you could go. First of all, you could see the featured DS Games, most popular DS Games, Top Loved DS Games, Top Favorited DS Games, and Top Downloaded DS Games. You could play them and comment and what not, and you could download it if you wanted to. Another place you could go is of course go to user profiles, and log-in yourself. Also you could view galleries. Lastly you could go to the special DS forums,

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#40 2010-01-16 10:02:42

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

There could be a simple project project viewer for the iPhone and iPod Touch.
Basically, every programmer could mark their projects as "iPhone compatible", and then when you downloaded the app, you could go online, and browse all the projects marked as "iPhone compatible".


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#41 2010-01-24 15:17:23

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

That would be good... a game/free download for my nintendo dsi!!!!!  smile


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#42 2010-01-24 15:20:26

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

Oramis wrote:

There could be a simple project project viewer for the iPhone and iPod Touch.
Basically, every programmer could mark their projects as "iPhone compatible", and then when you downloaded the app, you could go online, and browse all the projects marked as "iPhone compatible".

Not a bad idea. But it'd take a lot of time and money to develop that.


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#43 2010-01-26 18:23:22

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

anyone know the price for iSqueak?


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#44 2010-01-28 00:31:00

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

Ok, so, there's no scratch for the iPhone, iPodTouch, for some good reasons, but at least one of those reasons has gone away!  The size!  Now with the iPad, Scratch would be awesome!  Sure would be fun to be able to teach kids how to program with multitouch!  Heh...

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#45 2010-01-29 20:02:01

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

<( << Ipad <and> Scratch Creater >> <=> true<set{ Scratch }to( more awesomer )>there should be a scratch program for Ipod touch or Ipad. i want an Ipad, but I wont if i cant make games on it with scratch!


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#46 2010-01-30 23:06:52

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

GammaGames wrote:

have it for ds! I would buy it! you could make, or play games. Scripts go on bottom screen, game o ntop. Press select to switch screens.

I have a DS version of Scratch. It is very close to how you described it too.

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#47 2010-01-31 01:39:33

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

Dom818 wrote:

GammaGames wrote:

have it for ds! I would buy it! you could make, or play games. Scripts go on bottom screen, game o ntop. Press select to switch screens.

I have a DS version of Scratch. It is very close to how you described it too.

Obviously unofficial, though.


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#48 2010-01-31 01:42:52

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

joeisawesome wrote:

anyone know the price for iSqueak?

iSqueak is free.

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#49 2010-02-01 20:28:08

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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

Dom818 wrote:

GammaGames wrote:

have it for ds! I would buy it! you could make, or play games. Scripts go on bottom screen, game o ntop. Press select to switch screens.

I have a DS version of Scratch. It is very close to how you described it too.

How did you get/make it compatible for the DS?


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#50 2010-02-02 17:27:34

Dom818
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Re: Scratch on portable devices...

joeisawesome wrote:

anyone know the price for iSqueak?

iSqueak doesn't work I have tried it.

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