Scratch

*reads the beggining of the article* Tell me about it...

*reads the rest of the article* [whiney]I don't feel like it![/whiney]

I 'll do it!

littletonkslover wrote:

..........I'm still annoyed about the anti-art thing.

Tonks. Read my reasons again. You are more of an animator. I love animations. You are not the kind of artist that makes 0 sprite 0 script projects. Your stuff is gifted and rare. 

cocoanut wrote:

I have never seen a 0-sprite-0-script project, though I have seen 1-sprite-0-scripts.

Same deal. 

Last edited by illusionist (2009-12-16 19:20:16)

Lucario621 wrote:

Anyway, I'm a bit skeptical, considering I saw one of ThePCKid's projects there...

Huh? Please explain.

Hmmm... well, I have to agree with you.

Don't forget that animations are programming, just a different type. 

One quick comment: Scratch is about programming AND art.

Mr_X wrote:

andresmh wrote:

One quick comment: Scratch is about programming AND art.

I guess that settles that. War over!

It just feels like scratch is being taken over by art.

If scratch had a community, with less limits for inappropriateness, having users who are pretty much teenagers and no 'kids', would there be all of these projects? Unlikely. And if you're wondering why I say that, just look at newgrounds.com. So the fact that this is a friendly website is one of the only reasons scratch is popular, to most people.

So people are taking advantage of it. I'd prefer to have a seperate art site...

Programs and art can work hand in hand. Even the animations are art since you have to program the movements. But right now the frontpage is mostly ignoring programming. Right now 2 of the 9 projects on the frontpage's top sections are programming oriented.

Last edited by archmage (2009-12-17 17:24:50)

BUMP

Anyone care about the future? 

illusionist wrote:

I have previously come up with a plan to solve this problem. Some changes have been made, as a result of Andresmh creating a page with 100 projects made by people who have never received any comments at all on any of their projects.

Here: http://scratch.mit.edu/latest/activemembers

The page consists of projects from mostly new users. Man plan, is this:

Step 1: Go to the page and click a random project.

Step 2: Watch/play the project.

Step 3: Leave a comment complementing the creator, and giving advice. Don't to forget to wait for a reply, to ensure the user is active.

Step 4: Write down the username somewhere. Think of this user as your "Buddy"

Step 5: Come back every few days to see how your buddy is doing. Teach him/her what is good in the Scratch world, and what is not to ever be done. Teach the user all of the things involving Scratch that you know. This includes website use, and creating in the actual program.

Step 6: Continue with your teachings until your buddy is your equal or better (in programming skills and social skills). When this is done, your mission has been accomplished, and you can move on to another newbie.

Advice: Try not to go to a new user right away and say "HEY! welcome to scratch do you want to learn scrollling?!?!?!?!?!"

Try a slow approach, don't scare them away.

Also: Don't try to take a user that has already been chosen to be an "apprentice" by somebody else.

I think I will take the user "Caius"

GO!!! 

This is a great idea. I hope you continue with this effort. Just remember that it's not about asking people not to do art, instead, think of interesting ways of combining art and programming. If you're passionate about programming that is great and it's really cool if you try to get others excited about programming, but it's not a "war". If someone is not into programming that's fine too. Just try to be positive about what you like and not force anyone into doing something they don't like.

I really like your idea of welcoming new members and giving positive feedback.

Please post here how it goes.

Okay, how many users have actually chosen someone?