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#51 2009-12-07 09:03:08

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

You can't hack projects you know.

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#52 2009-12-07 22:34:57

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

Anything can be hacked, though.  Or in this case, remixed.  So thes methods could all be foiled with the right knowledge.  Not that it would be easy, and not that I could do it, but it could be done.


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#53 2009-12-07 22:59:27

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

BWOG wrote:

You can't hack projects you know.

*yawn*

I meant finding a way to remix projects after changing it the way you like it, or to tweak the scripts if you're having trouble with a game; etc..


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#54 2009-12-07 23:21:59

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

Lucario621 wrote:

The-Whiz wrote:

There is a way to make your projects almost impregnable. Here it is:
1. Click the new sprite button.
2. Move the window that appears.
3. Click the new sprite button again.
4. Click cancel in the window.
5. Double click the white square in the middle of the screen.
6. It's there, but it doesn't appear in the sprites box.

Yeah this is really THE BEST WAY. Its THE MOST IMPREGENABLE way. You make a hidden sprite. Before you make the main scripts, make sure that theres a script, with hidden letters you have to press, to make the sprite visible, so you can edit the scripts. In addition, use that sprite to also make a password. Because the sprite is hidden, you can't find out what the password is. Only a few people know how to find out, by hacking squeak.

Not exactly... there are more ways to hack into that. There's an easier way.


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#55 2009-12-09 21:45:31

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

16Skittles wrote:

to find a hidden sprite, make a sprite and put this script: [blocks]<when green flag clicked>
<forever>
<go to[ hidden sprite
<end>

that will make the sprite go to the hidden sprite. If you don't know which the hidden sprite is, it's the sprite that doesn't show up in the sprites area.
[/blocks]
then press the stop button,  record the X and Y positions, move the finder sprite, then double click at the X and Y positions to find the hidden sprite.

This way easily works to find a password.  All you have to do is use this and find the password in the scripts.  Or you could modify the scripts of the other sprites so that the password is not needed.


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#56 2009-12-10 21:29:27

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

Cat_Animator wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

to find a hidden sprite, make a sprite and put this script: [blocks]<when green flag clicked>
<forever>
<go to[ hidden sprite
<end>

that will make the sprite go to the hidden sprite. If you don't know which the hidden sprite is, it's the sprite that doesn't show up in the sprites area.
[/blocks]
then press the stop button,  record the X and Y positions, move the finder sprite, then double click at the X and Y positions to find the hidden sprite.

This way easily works to find a password.  All you have to do is use this and find the password in the scripts.  Or you could modify the scripts of the other sprites so that the password is not needed.

what password  sad


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#57 2009-12-10 22:11:10

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

TobiOlivers wrote:

what password  sad

Passwords that have been added to projects. They're done with the ask block.


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#58 2009-12-11 21:44:27

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

Chrischb wrote:

TobiOlivers wrote:

what password  sad

Passwords that have been added to projects. They're done with the ask block.

oohh, i see waht you mean! thanks for clearing that up  smile


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#59 2009-12-11 21:49:24

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

16Skittles wrote:

to find a hidden sprite, make a sprite and put this script: [blocks]<when green flag clicked>
<forever>
<go to[ hidden sprite
<end>

that will make the sprite go to the hidden sprite. If you don't know which the hidden sprite is, it's the sprite that doesn't show up in the sprites area.
[/blocks]
then press the stop button,  record the X and Y positions, move the finder sprite, then double click at the X and Y positions to find the hidden sprite.

easy way to fix this, put it in the hidden sprite:
[blocks]
<when green flag clicked>
<hide>
<forever>
<go to x sad  <pick random( -240 )to( 240 )y sad  <pick random( -180 )to( 180 ))
<end>
[/blocks]
doesn't really fix it much, but helps.

Last edited by TobiOlivers (2009-12-11 21:50:08)


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#60 2009-12-12 19:06:53

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

You can always just activate one script at a time, you know.  So a forever to block something could be found and removed via finding the hidden sprite using 16Skittles's method and you wouldn't have a problem with that anymore.  You could also eliminate any other "When Flag Clicked" or "When I Receive ___" statement this way.  Or you could eliminate those scripts directly if they were obvious.


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#61 2009-12-13 09:28:22

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

Cat_Animator wrote:

You can always just activate one script at a time, you know.  So a forever to block something could be found and removed via finding the hidden sprite using 16Skittles's method and you wouldn't have a problem with that anymore.  You could also eliminate any other "When Flag Clicked" or "When I Receive ___" statement this way.  Or you could eliminate those scripts directly if they were obvious.

i know i know  hmm  it's just a little helper for those noob hackers who don't know they can activate scripts one at a time.


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#62 2009-12-13 14:59:47

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

Wouldn't it be funny if someone was an expert at everything else, but didn't know that you could do that!
lol


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#63 2009-12-14 18:35:29

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

TobiOlivers wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

to find a hidden sprite, make a sprite and put this script: [blocks]<when green flag clicked>
<forever>
<go to[ hidden sprite
<end>

that will make the sprite go to the hidden sprite. If you don't know which the hidden sprite is, it's the sprite that doesn't show up in the sprites area.
[/blocks]
then press the stop button,  record the X and Y positions, move the finder sprite, then double click at the X and Y positions to find the hidden sprite.

easy way to fix this, put it in the hidden sprite:
[blocks]
<when green flag clicked>
<hide>
<forever>
<go to x sad  <pick random( -240 )to( 240 )y sad  <pick random( -180 )to( 180 ))
<end>
[/blocks]
doesn't really fix it much, but helps.

the reason that wouldn't work is that the finder would forever go the hidden sprite, and if you stop all, neither would move.


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#64 2009-12-14 21:22:46

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

16Skittles wrote:

TobiOlivers wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

to find a hidden sprite, make a sprite and put this script: [blocks]<when green flag clicked>
<forever>
<go to[ hidden sprite
<end>

that will make the sprite go to the hidden sprite. If you don't know which the hidden sprite is, it's the sprite that doesn't show up in the sprites area.
[/blocks]
then press the stop button,  record the X and Y positions, move the finder sprite, then double click at the X and Y positions to find the hidden sprite.

easy way to fix this, put it in the hidden sprite:
[blocks]
<when green flag clicked>
<hide>
<forever>
<go to x sad  <pick random( -240 )to( 240 )y sad  <pick random( -180 )to( 180 ))
<end>
[/blocks]
doesn't really fix it much, but helps.

the reason that wouldn't work is that the finder would forever go the hidden sprite, and if you stop all, neither would move.

3 posts above this one.

Last edited by TobiOlivers (2009-12-14 21:23:21)


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#65 2009-12-15 12:08:22

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

The-Whiz wrote:

There is a way to make your projects almost impregnable. Here it is:
1. Click the new sprite button.
2. Move the window that appears.
3. Click the new sprite button again.
4. Click cancel in the window.
5. Double click the white square in the middle of the screen.
6. It's there, but it doesn't appear in the sprites box.

I have hacked that way. Want proof. The four caps in the password for your catbot project are S, B, F and A.  tongue


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#66 2009-12-15 16:18:58

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

MathWizz wrote:

The-Whiz wrote:

There is a way to make your projects almost impregnable. Here it is:
1. Click the new sprite button.
2. Move the window that appears.
3. Click the new sprite button again.
4. Click cancel in the window.
5. Double click the white square in the middle of the screen.
6. It's there, but it doesn't appear in the sprites box.

I have hacked that way. Want proof. The four caps in the password for your catbot project are S, B, F and A.  tongue

It's a good thing the project is gone now; otherwise someone could use that.

Though yes, I did hack it.  tongue

But before he said not too... oops.  hmm


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#67 2009-12-15 16:21:48

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

The-Whiz wrote:

There is a way to make your projects almost impregnable. Here it is:
1. Click the new sprite button.
2. Move the window that appears.
3. Click the new sprite button again.
4. Click cancel in the window.
5. Double click the white square in the middle of the screen.
6. It's there, but it doesn't appear in the sprites box.

I found a way to show the sprite: delete all the other sprites, and share the project. Download it, and it's in the sprite list! It's still hidden, though...

You can guess what project I did that on.  tongue


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#68 2009-12-15 16:33:23

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

MathWizz wrote:

The-Whiz wrote:

There is a way to make your projects almost impregnable. Here it is:
1. Click the new sprite button.
2. Move the window that appears.
3. Click the new sprite button again.
4. Click cancel in the window.
5. Double click the white square in the middle of the screen.
6. It's there, but it doesn't appear in the sprites box.

I have hacked that way. Want proof. The four caps in the password for your catbot project are S, B, F and A.  tongue

Hacking that way is easy XD, once you know how to hack it XD

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#69 2009-12-15 16:36:40

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

deatheater wrote:

MathWizz wrote:

The-Whiz wrote:

There is a way to make your projects almost impregnable. Here it is:
1. Click the new sprite button.
2. Move the window that appears.
3. Click the new sprite button again.
4. Click cancel in the window.
5. Double click the white square in the middle of the screen.
6. It's there, but it doesn't appear in the sprites box.

I have hacked that way. Want proof. The four caps in the password for your catbot project are S, B, F and A.  tongue

Hacking that way is easy XD, once you know how to hack it XD

It's easy.  smile

1. To check if the project has a hidden sprite, delete them all. Then delete the scripts in the stage.
2. Does something still happen? Share it online.
3. Download the project and view the hidden sprite.


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#70 2009-12-17 17:01:49

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

if you need to see exactly what happens when scripts are executed, just start single-stepping. click "edit" then "set single stepping" set it to "flash blocks slow", then go back and click "start single stepping". you can watch the whole project go while watching what is happening.


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#71 2009-12-17 23:28:32

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

hidas wrote:

if you need to see exactly what happens when scripts are executed, just start single-stepping. click "edit" then "set single stepping" set it to "flash blocks slow", then go back and click "start single stepping". you can watch the whole project go while watching what is happening.

Interesting... added to the list.  smile

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#72 2009-12-20 21:03:57

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

Jonathanpb wrote:

I found a way to show the sprite: delete all the other sprites, and share the project. Download it, and it's in the sprite list! It's still hidden, though...

I don't really feel like cluttering up my user page with a whole bunch of random projects shared in the name of attempting to figure out how to beat something or whatever, so I think that I would just use 16Skittles's method, copy the hidden sprite, and view it that way.  It's easy, and you don't have to share anything unnecessarily.


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#73 2009-12-21 01:05:17

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

Cat_Animator wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

I found a way to show the sprite: delete all the other sprites, and share the project. Download it, and it's in the sprite list! It's still hidden, though...

I don't really feel like cluttering up my user page with a whole bunch of random projects shared in the name of attempting to figure out how to beat something or whatever, so I think that I would just use 16Skittles's method, copy the hidden sprite, and view it that way.  It's easy, and you don't have to share anything unnecessarily.

You can share something, download it, and delete it.


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#74 2009-12-21 10:18:29

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

True.


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#75 2009-12-21 12:19:28

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Re: How to make your projects impregnable to hackers!

Chrischb wrote:

Cat_Animator wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

I found a way to show the sprite: delete all the other sprites, and share the project. Download it, and it's in the sprite list! It's still hidden, though...

I don't really feel like cluttering up my user page with a whole bunch of random projects shared in the name of attempting to figure out how to beat something or whatever, so I think that I would just use 16Skittles's method, copy the hidden sprite, and view it that way.  It's easy, and you don't have to share anything unnecessarily.

You can share something, download it, and delete it.

thats what i do.


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