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It's annoying, I know, but scratch lets you compress sounds and images. Just go to the Edit menu, and there's options to compress them, and you can set how much you want. It cuts the filesize by a lot. There's also the "compress sounds and images" checkbox you see before you upload the project, but I don't see much of a difference with it.

Last edited by hmnwilson (2009-12-06 18:34:31)

No, you are talking about RAM. Hard disks are expensive, and, what if you use a laptop? I reckon the limit is there for a reason.

The limit is because the Java player can't handle anything bigger, and Scratch is already pushing it's limits.

RacerZmanx1 wrote:

I think its kinda sad that the limit for projects is 10 MB. I mean, come on! Songs and sounds, for example are important to projects, and take up the most space. But I can only put 2 in (3 if I shorten all of them) without getting the message: Cannot upload file- Exceeds 10-MB Limit.

You know, you can program an amazingly large project and still only use up 4 megabytes. 10 is actually very large.
The problem with some things is that people just add music to everything. Music just decreases the amount of space for your projects. Use music wisely, and cut it if neccessary.
Trust me, you can program an amazingly vast and complex project and not even get to half the space. There's plenty of room.

RacerZmanx1 wrote:

If projects are going to get bigger and better with all the new features the Scratch Team has put in Scratch, then can we get some more space!?!?    I probably shouldn't say this, but, how hard can it be?

Who said projects would get bigger? It's just more blocks. It's sort of like saying that by removing blocks, you could program more into the 10 megabyte limit. That doesn't make sense.


What makes you need to put three whole music pieces in? Isn't that too much? 

If you need to, you can try a music loop that just goes for ten seconds. It'll take up much less space.

Overall, you won't have to worry about hitting the 10 megabyte barrier unless you're just stuffing your project with several music pieces. 

Why do you need songs in your game? You have perfectly good music blocks (MIDI).

MP3 Doesnt directly support lyrics, the players just find the lyrics for you. MP3 is a codec/ way of encoding music files.
MIDI is much more awsome. you can't make your own music with random mp3 files.

If you really want space, go upload it on some other website.

cds56 wrote:

MP3 Doesnt directly support lyrics, the players just find the lyrics for you. MP3 is a codec/ way of encoding music files.
MIDI is much more awsome. you can't make your own music with random mp3 files.

But you can record music as an MP3 file. Now most music is in MP3 anyways. 

And yeah, that's what I meant about the lyrics, thanks for clearing it up 

ThePCKid wrote:

Can we just throw in 500 more KB?

Then the limit will be 10.5 MB

Anyone agree with me?
       

Like I said, the Java player can't handle big projects.

Listen, I know a lot of people want more space, but here's a few reasons it's just not practical: 

1) The main source of large project size is sound. Just decrease the amount of music in your game, and the limit will be easy to stay under.
2) Large files make the player extremely slow, and sometimes they won't even load.
3) Currently, there are 1,346,826 projects on the site. Even if the average project is 2MB, that's over 2.6TB on Scratch's servers, and the number of projects is growing like crazy. In September alone, 53,148 projects were created. If the size limit was raised, there would be an even greater load on the site.

Magnie wrote:

Moderators: Please, let this stay open. It creates less topics of the same subject. They are doing what they are suggested to do, by searching for the topic then posting there.

Pent9: Yes. But what advantages does it give the community? More music? We already have enough art, do we need a music site too?

Harakou: ( Your name sounds familiar... From some anime show.... ) I never honestly thought of that. 2.6 TB is ginormous. But yes, what you have stated is nice to have posted.

Actually, 2.6 TB isn't all that much. Sure, the size could be decreased considerably, but a lot of home computers are selling with 1TB hard drives these days - technology has progressed to such a point where memory has become cheap enough to do that! Considering in 1998, state-of-the-art computers had more or less 4GB hard drives, this is quite a feat!

Sorry for going off-topic.    But really, it's simple to compress sounds with unnoticeable quality changes - so do that and you can cut that project size in half and keep everything nice and small without a noticeable change.

I think the limit should be raised... not to unlimited, but to a good amount!