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#1 2009-12-02 04:08:10

Jonathanpb
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Previous costume

Since there's [next costume], why not have [previous costume]? Yes, I know you can do [switch to costume ((costume) - [1])], but it's just so simple, so why not? And it'd be nice and easy for animating and lives (you know, having the lives sprite go back a costume because of more health).

If you say that it isn't neccessary, delete the [next costume] block for the same reason.

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#2 2009-12-02 09:40:04

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Re: Previous costume

I agree with you, when you make animations it's much easier to use a pre-made block for it.


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#3 2009-12-02 23:05:08

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Re: Previous costume

Yeah! Why not have previous costume anyway, when there's next costume? It just makes sense.


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#4 2009-12-02 23:06:50

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Re: Previous costume

I know it's not neccessary, but neither is the "next costume" block.

After all, supposing they wouldn't include the Previous Costume block because it's not neccessary, why would they have added the Next Costume block anyway? If that was okay, why not get it done with?

I know it's not used as often as the Next Costume block, but it's still good for animating.


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#5 2009-12-02 23:13:24

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Re: Previous costume

Personally I think we should just get rid of the next costume block.

We can always use

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And ignore the minus block right above this text. That was an accident.

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#6 2009-12-03 14:52:47

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Re: Previous costume

This, and cocoanut's idea both work well. But of course for the people who don't know how to do that, I'd rather not do cocoanut's idea, and actually make the previous costume block. The reason they probably didn't do this was because in an animation, you don't usually go backwards.


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#7 2009-12-03 16:31:03

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Re: Previous costume

Suggested before, but for some reason it always gets ignored...

A previous costume would be very helpful  smile  And didn't there used to be one (or was that just an obsolete block?).


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#8 2009-12-03 22:58:01

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Re: Previous costume

Lucario621 wrote:

This, and cocoanut's idea both work well. But of course for the people who don't know how to do that, I'd rather not do cocoanut's idea, and actually make the previous costume block.

Yeah, that would be helpful. And it also saves time; I dislike having to reach in the areas just to get a simple piece going.

Lucario621 wrote:

The reason they probably didn't do this was because in an animation, you don't usually go backwards.

True... I was going to say that, but I didn't bother.  tongue


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#9 2009-12-04 23:53:23

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Re: Previous costume

Lucario621 wrote:

This, and cocoanut's idea both work well. But of course for the people who don't know how to do that, I'd rather not do cocoanut's idea, and actually make the previous costume block. The reason they probably didn't do this was because in an animation, you don't usually go backwards.

Yes, in animations you're probably not going to go backwards, though sometimes, you might.

I don't know about getting rid of the next costume block... a lot of new Scratchers don't know how to get along without it.  hmm


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#10 2009-12-05 09:37:01

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Re: Previous costume

Jonathanpb wrote:

I don't know about getting rid of the next costume block... a lot of new Scratchers don't know how to get along without it.  hmm

Not to mention that it would break a bunch of projects.


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#11 2009-12-05 12:37:05

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Re: Previous costume

you can aslo use a variable

cause you can change that to a positive or negative number!

like <when green flag clicked>
         <forever>
           <switch to costume[ <{ <{costume  }> }> ]

and then you will be able to freely change the costumes just by changing that variable,but it IS too much work for something simple like that!

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#12 2009-12-05 17:27:31

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Re: Previous costume

However pointless (Next Costume) is, taking out blocks is making Scratch slightly worse.


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#13 2009-12-05 22:17:00

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Re: Previous costume

GirWaffles64 wrote:

However pointless (Next Costume) is, taking out blocks is making Scratch slightly worse.

Removing blocks may be a problem; I'm not entirely sure what it would do to projects that use the old blocks...


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#14 2009-12-05 22:26:07

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Re: Previous costume

Good point! Take the comment feature included in Scratch 1.2 (which I have never used). I once downloaded a project, but there were comments, and you had to remove them all to play the game...


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#15 2009-12-06 00:04:33

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Re: Previous costume

Why degrade when we can upgrade?


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#16 2009-12-06 00:15:45

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Re: Previous costume

Yeah!  tongue


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#17 2009-12-06 01:05:53

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Re: Previous costume

Chrischb wrote:

GirWaffles64 wrote:

However pointless (Next Costume) is, taking out blocks is making Scratch slightly worse.

Removing blocks may be a problem; I'm not entirely sure what it would do to projects that use the old blocks...

It wouldn't do anything. The scratch team has removed blocks before. They keep the code from the old blocks in later versions. So the old blocks work, they just turn red in the newer releases (comment block notwithstanding).

That doesn't mean I want the "next costume" block removed, though. Actually, the previous costume block is a good idea. I just thought I should point it out.  tongue

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#18 2009-12-06 01:30:10

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Re: Previous costume

hmnwilson wrote:

Chrischb wrote:

GirWaffles64 wrote:

However pointless (Next Costume) is, taking out blocks is making Scratch slightly worse.

Removing blocks may be a problem; I'm not entirely sure what it would do to projects that use the old blocks...

It wouldn't do anything. The scratch team has removed blocks before. They keep the code from the old blocks in later versions. So the old blocks work, they just turn red in the newer releases (comment block notwithstanding).

That doesn't mean I want the "next costume" block removed, though. Actually, the previous costume block is a good idea. I just thought I should point it out.  tongue

Ooh! (I and Chrischb came around in the days of Scratch 1.2.1, so we wouldn't know much.  tongue )


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#19 2010-04-27 03:55:53

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Re: Previous costume

I think Scratch needs a previous costume block.   For example, if you are making a game and in the game you gain a life, you might not be familar with <switch to costume[((costume <->1 )) . I'm not quite familiar with it myself.


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#20 2010-04-27 18:36:48

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Re: Previous costume

Why is it that all my suggestions are getting bumped?  hmm

Anyway, I still want that block!  big_smile


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#21 2010-04-27 18:38:42

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Re: Previous costume

I support!  tongue


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#22 2010-05-23 09:04:20

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Re: Previous costume

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#23 2010-05-24 01:54:39

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Re: Previous costume

Ooh, bumped.  big_smile

I support!


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#24 2010-05-24 10:42:32

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Re: Previous costume

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#25 2010-05-24 16:01:59

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Re: Previous costume

You can make this block.

BLOCK SPEC:

Code:

('previous costume' #- #previousCostume)

BLOCK CODING:

Code:

previousCostume
    self costumeIndex: self costumeIndex - 1

NOTE: replace the spaces with one TAB

You can just do that and then BAM, you have the previous costume block.


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