Scratch

markyparky56 · 2009-12-01 12:54:21

If we have anything to do with it, and we know how to answer it. Of course.

filo5 · 2009-12-01 16:35:49

9700 views when I clicked there.

gershmer · 2009-12-01 17:06:22

9715.

markyparky56 · 2009-12-02 11:06:02

9764 now

filo5 · 2009-12-02 13:12:02

Any progress? No? Me neither.

(2009-12-02 - 18:11 -- The 60 seconds rule has been noticed ruining this post)

Magnie · 2009-12-02 15:21:07

Forget about the views until we get 10k views, and even then forget about them and get to work on Emerald, we need to remake Emerald completely.

gershmer · 2009-12-02 15:51:07

Magnie wrote:
Forget about the views until we get 10k views, and even then forget about them and get to work on Emerald, we need to remake Emerald completely.

In def()'s , right?

Magnie · 2009-12-02 16:50:53

We need to remake it from nothing, I really like how Whiz's Opal program allows you to write everything on one line and we need to make our own Save and Load, not use pickle, that way we can type in plain text without needing to do it in Emerald. I already have an idea on how to do it.

gershmer · 2009-12-02 17:20:30

Magnie wrote:
We need to remake it from nothing, I really like how Whiz's Opal program allows you to write everything on one line and we need to make our own Save and Load, not use pickle, that way we can type in plain text without needing to do it in Emerald. I already have an idea on how to do it.

Opal is really nice.

If you could post the code for non-Pickle save and load on the other forums, then...uh...do that... big_smile

gershmer · 2009-12-02 19:31:44

Opal is available for download.

EDIT: oh yeah, 9842ish views

Last edited by gershmer (2009-12-02 19:45:26)

Magnie · 2009-12-02 20:32:41

Well, it's going to be hard... This is what you will have to type in plain text:

Code:

print
Hiya
no
ask
How are you?
mood
yes
print
mood
yes

which displays:

Code:

Hiya
How are you? Good
Good

but I'm still not sure how to explain it. We need a new way to do this...

markyparky56 · 2009-12-03 11:07:54

i think we should be a little more advanced with the way we program it, and have it a bit more like Scratch as well, insted of print, have say.
and the like. You know Illusionists code, a bit like that. Because i think that code that magnie posted.

magnie wrote:

Code:

print
Hiya
no
ask
How are you?
mood
yes
print
mood
yes

Is more confusing that this code (Which i wrote in Small Basic)

Code:

If (Clock.Hour < 12) then
  TextWindow.WriteLine("Morning world")
  EndIf
If (Clock.Hour >= 12) Then
  TextWindow.WriteLine("Evening world")
EndIf

filo5 · 2009-12-03 12:34:51

delete not-needed booleans

Why do these yes-es? I mean, booleans are needed, but why so many? We don't need to make things like ask(string question, string variable name,bool create variable) - ask(string question, string variable name) will do. I'd also suggest to take variable assignment out of function call: answer = ask(string question)
Also, if Emerald is a link between Scratch and a programming language, which one though? C#, Visual Basic or Python?

Magnie · 2009-12-03 15:00:18

Marky: That's the reason I need a better idea, so it's easier to program in:

Code:

print # Command
Hiya # Text
no # Variable No.
ask # Command
How are you? # Text
mood # Variable
yes # Variable yes
print # Command
mood # Text
yes # Variable Yes.

I want it to be:

Code:

print 'so and so'
ask 'How are you? ' mood
print mood

or

Code:

print 'so and so'
mood(ask 'How are you? ')
print mood

Something like that.

markyparky56 · 2009-12-03 16:47:58

Magnie:
why not

Code:

Start
       Say: "So and So"
       Ask: "How are you?"
            save answer to = mood.var
       Say: "mood.var"
End

What'd ya think? It resembles a programing langauge a bit more now.

Magnie · 2009-12-03 21:08:59

That works, but I don't like 'required' tabs:

Code:

Start
       Say: "So and So" ()
       Ask: "How are you?" (
            save answer to = mood.var )
       Say: "mood.var" ( )
End

The parentheses would be used instead of tabs, but tabs would still be usable. But more 'Scratch' like:

Code:

Start
       Say: "So and So"
       Ask: "How are you?" 
       mood.var = ask
       Say: "mood.var"
End

markyparky56 · 2009-12-04 07:46:23

Yeah, that looks better. Why not just forget the speach marks ("")

And just have:

Code:

Start
       Say: So and So
       Ask: How are you?"
       mood.var = ask
       Say: mood.var
End

But why is the mood.var saving part inverted?

It should be more litteral, like scratch is.

Code:

ask.answer = mood.var

Any better?

Magnie · 2009-12-04 13:42:42

Well if we leave out the Speech marks, then it won't understand if you want to print text, or print the data in a variable or list.

markyparky56 · 2009-12-04 15:59:52

good point. What about putting it in brackets?

like:

Code:

Say: (So and So)

Or does that look pretty wierd?

gershmer · 2009-12-04 16:22:37

markyparky56 wrote:
good point. What about putting it in brackets?

like:
Code:
Say: (So and So)
Or does that look pretty wierd?

This would be better:

Code:

say(var)
say("text")

But it would be hard to make a program that could understand that syntax, probably.
This:

Code:

say var
say "text"

would be the easiest syntax to work with.

markyparky56 · 2009-12-04 16:39:22

yeah, that looks better, but would't it be easier to read the code if you have colons after each block/code part?

gershmer · 2009-12-04 17:14:45

markyparky56 wrote:
yeah, that looks better, but would't it be easier to read the code if you have colons after each block/code part?

Colons are hideous.

big_smile

big_smile

Magnie · 2009-12-04 18:34:09

Yeah, semi-colons and those things are the most annoying thing on the entire planet of the solar-system, of the galaxy, of the universe, of space, of time, and of life.

big_smile

big_smile

markyparky56 · 2009-12-05 04:27:00

and the asnwer to all that is 42.

Anyway, it would help the program to recognze what to print, and the creator to see where the synta stops and imput begins

filo5 · 2009-12-05 05:21:40

That could be done.

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