Scratch

Paddle2See wrote:

Jens, this is simply amazing!  Astounding!  Incredible!  The first routine I made was "Previous Costume" - it felt so good to be able to hide that ugly equation neatly away in a routine where it belongs!  From my first baby steps, I will now stride forth confidently.  Thank you!

Wow---how'd you do that?

jens could you work with the scratch team to make projects uploadable or atleast work online

Hi dav09,

It's cool that you like BYOB! I agree that being able to upload BYOB projects to a website would be nice, but I'm afraid I don't know my way around the java player 

Hi nobunny,

You can broadcast from within a custom block, but you cannot create a new event hat in BYOB or use one within a custom block. The reason for this is that custom blocks in BYOB are "naked" procedures which have to be invoked directly, not scripts in the Scratch sense (stacks and invoked by an event). The next version of BYOB will have first class procedures, though. Then you'll be able to store blocks and scripts in variables and lists and invoke them at some other time with arbitrary arguments. This will give you much greater control over what's happening, so hang on!

can byob use mesh to have online play? and if so where could i find out how to do that?

Why is Mesh only used for computers in your house?  Anyways, I think the "Share Sprite" should have no scripts, but it goes to the exact location of where the other sprite is on the other Scratch, this would allow users to make "MMO"s or something like that. 

Since Mesh uses IP address to identify the computer, it is capable of connecting to any other mesh-enabled device (computer with BYOB). However, speed of that connection depends on your upstream speed, number of network peers your connection is transferred through (that's why sourceforge uses "mirrors"), network overload and finally your friend's downstream speed. Just like with Skype, quality and speed may fall after crossing the Atlantic Ocean or going through a satellite.

Regarding MMOs: This is an interesting thing, however it might need other kind of software, not exactly Scratch-based (Scratch is a programming language based on Squeak which is based on C - that's why so slow). Also, how would you do that? Pen? Copying sprites? I don't really think multi-peer connections are better for something more than a chatroom, AND... Finally, network programming in Scratch (eg. Snyff) is kinda like playing with matches. But it also leads to a red box to hack Scratch.

Magnie: Did you both turn off your firewalls?

filo5 wrote:

Since Mesh uses IP address to identify the computer, it is capable of connecting to any other mesh-enabled device (computer with BYOB). However, speed of that connection depends on your upstream speed, number of network peers your connection is transferred through (that's why sourceforge uses "mirrors"), network overload and finally your friend's downstream speed. Just like with Skype, quality and speed may fall after crossing the Atlantic Ocean or going through a satellite.

Regarding MMOs: This is an interesting thing, however it might need other kind of software, not exactly Scratch-based (Scratch is a programming language based on Squeak which is based on C - that's why so slow). Also, how would you do that? Pen? Copying sprites? I don't really think multi-peer connections are better for something more than a chatroom, AND... Finally, network programming in Scratch (eg. Snyff) is kinda like playing with matches. But it also leads to a red box to hack Scratch.

Ok ok let me understand
SCRATCH>SQUEAK>SMALLTAK>C omg i can programme scratch in extremely basic form

Hi Magnie, the "Share Sprite" feature is indeed meant to enable collaborative forms of creating projects rather than to be used in MMOs, there are no blocks which invoke sprite sharing anyway. The idea is to maybe have a group of children sit in the same room and be able to quickly share their sprites, instead of having to run around with memory sticks.

is it mandatory to turn off your firewall?  because that's a problem for me as we want to be protected 24/7, why is this a necessity?

Jens! I just made one thing(still a beta-ish thing) that allows you to draw on a networked canvas. I have made it for download Here.

I just thought it was an interesting thing to share. 

well thats an issue as i cannot turn off my firewall under any circumstances.

How do you make it a multiplayer game?