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Exactly, jacool. 

Why does everyone blame the newbies? Probably because they don't want to blame themselves... and because everyone thinks they're superior to the newer people.

jacool, you only get upset sparingly? I get upset all the time... XD

deatheater wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Why does everyone blame the newbies? Probably because they don't want to blame themselves... and because everyone thinks they're superior to the newer people.

That's just human nature

Anyway, I mainly agree with you Jacool, though I don't think the whole things totally wrong, I'm not saying this is all the new people's fault

'07ers - Quiet, advanced users, full of wisdom.
'08ers - Slightly louder, happy users. make some mistakes, mostly advanced
'09ers - Some spammers and publicity mongers. Few advanced, quality programmers.

This is more of a summing up of a time line of scratch, these things are happening, but it's not specifically each species that are making it happen in a certain time period

There's less advanced programmers because, most of the advanced programmers from the early periods have moved onto something more advanced (like flash)

There's probably more spammers and publicity mongers because each person is getting less views on their project, because there's more projects being posted


So, to sum it up, no it's not each species fault.

Everyone seems to start new forums based on one's joining date, it's not segregation but it's gotten more and more like it.
Why care about when someone joined, isn't it your actions that counts?
Like Momma Gump said:
"Stupid is as stupid does"
Like I said it's your actions that counts.

After seeing almost endless complaints against art/animation projects and comments suggestive of join-date segregation in the Scratch community, I find this thread. All I can say is this: jacool, your open-minded comment has just absolutely made my day.    *applauds*

I agree with you.

I'm a new user, and I DO feel hurt from all this.

Yay. Thanks jacool. You saved me a lot of typing. Was going to do this myself.

I'm too slow. I agree with what everyone said.

To Jacool:

I agree with you 100%! Those lines about the different users look familiar... 

My topic was never intended to insult anyone. As I had clearly stated below the topic.

It was a survey, to ask people what they think next year would be like. I asked them how they could help Scratch improve. But everyone took it the wrong way.

You certainly did too. 

I will re-post my topic (I deleted it) and be a bit more clear about the message I am trying to convey.


Read before you post. I would also feel a bit more comfortable with myself if you could remove the words from the bottom? 

like i said in the other forum, its stereotyping and putting people into groups. here's the thing,there are quite alot of people who DO do that and they came from the 09 generation, but thats not to say that they're all consistent, look at RH... i dunno random numbers
hes much better then me, and i've been here like two years.  im not afraid to admit it that guys projects are sick!
there are many other skillful programmers that come from 09 too
so though i do think that you could generalize it that way, stereotyping isnt nice
especially when once you do that someone comes along and says, well thats not true and bam you've just gotten owned.
nice topic 

oh and @ fg123, i didnt post useless projects, i waited until my games were good enough that they could meet scratch standards, and if they werent then i would take them off lol.

Last edited by FantasyTales (2009-11-28 12:05:34)

I totally agree jacool. Thanks for writing this. I'm an 09er. 

I can not quote this for truth enough. Great job!    *applauds with Cheddargirl*

Oh great Jacoolius, you have shown us the way. 

I agree; the other day I was thumbing through some of my older projects and comments- most of which were extremely noobish    The "class of '09" just needs some time. eventually they will become the new '07ers- the quiet, advanced scratchers. (I'm not saying there aren't 09ers or 08ers who are just as advanced as us 07ers, because there are.)

Chrischb wrote:

Jacool, you've made history. I admire the way you want peace, and that is very good - I approve. (Wow, that was dramatic.  )

Anyway, I am willing to confess that at least some projects irritate me, and the art problem makes me rather upset - and the same goes with the Top Remixed.

But it's not just the new users who are responsible; I'd say it's when we mix up together and feed some things.
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You have now changed me! Here's a Scratch Award. 

I was just wondering, what exactly is a Scratch Award?