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#1 2009-11-27 11:47:15

andresmh
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Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

We recently changed the names of the 'Top Loved' and 'Top Viewed' rows on the Scratch Homepage to "What the community is loving" and "What the community is viewing."  We made these changes because we want the names to reflect the community spirit of the Scratch Website.

Right now these rows function in the same way as they always have. Why change the name? Some people in the Scratch Team felt that "Tops" puts too much emphasis on competition. It's fine that many Scratchers like to compete, often this leads to really cool projects. But we don't want to give the impression that the goal of participating in the Scratch community is to make it to the top loved / viewed slots. We think people like to Scratch because it's fun to make cool stuff and share it with others in the community. So we want these rows to indicate what's going on in the community lately rather than what projects are in the "tops."


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#2 2009-11-27 11:51:52

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

I agree. Those are pretty good reasons. But to be consistent, you might want to change "Top Remixed" too.

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#3 2009-11-27 12:05:41

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

Oh! I didn't ever think of it that way! Thanks for the explaination Andrés!  smile

¡Oh! No pienses de esa manera! Gracias por la explaination Andrés!  smile


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#4 2009-11-27 12:16:21

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

That is a good reason. I never thought of people taking it in the way that it is a competition, but it is good to prevent that  smile


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#5 2009-11-27 14:39:59

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

Thank you for telling us. It probably helped some people who were wondering.


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#6 2009-11-27 15:24:17

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

That's a pretty nice idea  smile 
And it does sound a lot less competitive now.


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#7 2009-11-27 18:44:57

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

YAY! what-the's name is always on the front page now!!  big_smile

Anyway, I like it! Better than the plain "Top ___". At least I think so.


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#8 2009-11-27 21:14:45

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

I think its better this way. It will help some people wrap their minds around the fact that art is a phase in the community, and should not be banned or separated. (Lots of disscusions with this topic)

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#9 2009-11-27 21:15:42

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

fg123 wrote:

YAY! what-the's name is always on the front page now!!  big_smile

Anyway, I like it! Better than the plain "Top ___". At least I think so.

smile    smile 

It does sound less competitive and better over all.


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#10 2009-11-27 23:28:05

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

I like it!   Except it sounds a little weird.  Maybe you could reword it?  But I like the idea of making it less competitive.   big_smile


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#11 2009-11-28 00:30:38

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

I love it! You know how people used to say "How did that get Top Loved?"? They seemed to think that everyone loved it, not the majority. But now it's obvious that it's "So that's what the Community is loving right now!". Great change!  smile


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#12 2009-11-28 00:32:53

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

One thing, though - when it says "What the Scratch Community is viewing", that sounds like "What is being viewed right now". Wouldn't it be better to call it "What the Scratch Community has been viewing"? Like that, it gets rid of the "Ooh, something's being viewed right now!" and makes it more of "So that is what's been viewed lately".

I would like both Loved and Viewed to be changed.


Here's my suggestion "What the Scratch Community is viewing" to "has been viewing", that covers that.


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#13 2009-11-28 00:53:58

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

I'm very happy it's changed! It will remove all the rough feelings (well, some of them...) about "I'M NOT ON TOP VIEWED" OR "I WANNA BE TOP LOVED". The name sounds more friendly, and just shows what the community is doing.


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#14 2009-11-28 06:02:51

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

nice... but small

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#15 2009-11-28 19:02:25

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

Thanks for the explanation!


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#16 2009-11-28 23:07:47

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

I think it's a great idea. I'm sure it's tough to balance openness to development of young scratchers ('young' based on experience, I mean) with a focus on the great developers we have.

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#17 2009-11-29 01:54:16

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

i was wondering why...


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#18 2009-11-29 08:53:45

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

I ♥ it!


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#19 2009-11-29 15:37:12

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

Jonathanpb wrote:

One thing, though - when it says "What the Scratch Community is viewing", that sounds like "What is being viewed right now". Wouldn't it be better to call it "What the Scratch Community has been viewing"? Like that, it gets rid of the "Ooh, something's being viewed right now!" and makes it more of "So that is what's been viewed lately".
I would like both Loved and Viewed to be changed.

Interesting point! We talked about this when considering the change, and decided that the risk of confusion wasn't too much of a worry. Your suggestion is more clear, but it also makes things pretty long... we like to keep things short and tidy on the front page.

Maybe "What's being viewed lately?" would be short enough, but we kind of like having "community" in there... Any other thoughts?


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#20 2009-11-29 15:43:32

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

I still think you should change the "Top Remixed" as well. It makes things more consistent.

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#21 2009-11-29 21:25:11

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

I like the change, but you should make it shorter. It's too long. Like 'The Community's Picks' or something short and catchy.


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#22 2009-11-29 21:31:39

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

Great reason! I remember when I used to always try to make it to the front page. Now whatever happens to my projects I am okay with!  big_smile

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#23 2009-11-30 00:37:26

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

I think the name changes sound a little better anyway. Nice job scratch team (lol first post)

Edit: woops I mean 3rd

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#24 2009-12-19 11:26:47

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

I think this is a great improvement!  big_smile

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#25 2010-07-07 01:27:24

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Re: Explanation for changes to "Top Loved", "Top Viewed" rows

cool thanx for telling me  smile


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