Scratch

You ever seen a "Hello World" program? It just displays the text "Hello World". It is the staple introduction program to a programing language. They are done by student to learn the interface of their IDE and do something with the programing language. Thats what the programs coming in are now, they are learning pieces not end user functional pieces.  As people learn more the community will get more end user programs. There will always be the learning programs here because that is what scratch is about. Every piece here can be downloaded and opened up to see how it runs. Learning and sharing. 
~Dasuku

srry if i was coming off a little harsh but still...i think i am just not really that optimistic...lol hehe 

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It would be good for there to be different sorts of galleries:

1) clubs and schools:  only projects from one source
  (variant: single-artist galleries, which we have if you go to the member's page,
  but they are a little hard to browse)

2) edited galleries:  people submit their projects to the gallery, but an editor (or "moderator", if you prefer that term) decides whether the submission meets the criteria of the gallery.  Currently there is only one "the featured list", and the criteria are not clear (just, someone on the scratch team liked it). 

3) themed, but open, galleries (we have a few of these, but no way to find them)

4) open galleries (we have way too many of these)

Having an explicit top-level hierarchy like this would make it much easier to find the good stuff: one would go to the edited galleries first, looking for ones whose description  matches your tastes.  When one finds a good project, one could add a link to the author
(which is something *quite* different from the symmetric friends list that is currently implemented) and look at their other work.  If the edited galleries don't have enough stuff, then the themed open galleries would be the next place to look.  Finally, one could wade through the random stuff like we have to do now.

zippzom wrote:

AN example of a stupid project is world of warcraft mascot
I mean all the stupid cat is doing is switching costumes

I'm new to Scratch and, as a learning exercise, have been trawling through this forum to collect tips and hints on all the key queries and comments. This one stood out because at first I wondered about the large number of apparently overly-simple projects. But then I realised that this wasn't at all stupid, but a reflection of how easily newcomers felt able to create something and feel proud enough of it to share it.

Unless you have a background in programming, you're going to come to Scratch and play around with it to see what it does - and what it can let you do. Early success, no matter how simple, will surely lead many on to create ever more complex games and movies. That, for me, is the entire point and strength of Scratch.

Wow mayhem you put everything i wanted say in a non-anger form and with a nice elegant touch!

kevin_karplus wrote:

The gallery owners could look at the project and decide whether to accept it, reject it, or defer decision.  People would then start looking for new projects in their favorite galleries rather than trying to wade through the flood of new projects.

Sounds like the basis of a very good idea here - but it would require the gallery owners making a definite commitment both in terms of time and effort.

I personally don't think of Scratch as necessarily having to always go around being a Programming Language and producing Useful Worthwhile Programs.  To me it's a program that allows you to create a particular range of occurances, just as this text box here allows me to express a range of character symbols to y'all.  This text box would gladly accept the Next Great American Novel, but I'm just typing a forum post & it's OK with that too.

I'm not in favor in any way of creating an atmosphere where you're supposed to worry about whether a project is good enough or meaningful enough to share.  There's an aura around programming that it's supposed to be this difficult craft, and I see that energy trying to find its way into this space.  Let's not play that way.

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I see a lot of them. It's anoying trying to figure out what they're meant to do then you realize they don't do anything!

Last edited by Mick (2007-06-08 12:37:11)