Could it be that some of our most famous Scratch members be gone off of Scratch? It just doesn't make sense to me that people like:
Shanesta
ernestpazera
and many other members have created simply incredible projects, and haven't visited the Scratch website in months. Why is that?
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Well, the only thing Shanesta ever did was submit his archery game and I guess ernestpazera had his fill of scratch. I probably won't be making projects for a while either. I've already done a few big ones.
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archmage wrote:
Well, the only thing Shanesta ever did was submit his archery game and I guess ernestpazera had his fill of scratch. I probably won't be making projects for a while either. I've already done a few big ones.
I guess, it is rather overwhelming to create a big project, and that's all you'll really need to become part of Scratch history, but it is rather solemn for such members to not even visit Scratch every once in a while. It really seams a mystery to me.
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I think they just wanted to try out the program and see what they could do with it
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Speaking of people gone missing, where's MyRedNeptune these days? I haven't seen a MyRedNeptune forum post or new project in probably a week or so.
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MyRedNeptune hasn't been on for a long time. other people that left probably have better things to do besides program games. with all of the websites for teenagers, scratch is just a childish website to make simple games.
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I know I will never leave Scratch myself, I was on until 8:00 last night until 2:00 in the morning, Scratch CAN be addicting!
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The last post I remember from MyRedNeptune was about 10 days ago. That's not so long that I would think that she is abandoning Scratch—perhaps schoolwork is a bit busy right now, or she has a cold or something.
There are people who were active a year ago, but are not now. In some cases this represents a change of school situation (Graham was very active over the summer, but has not posted much since starting middle school). Others may simply have found some other interest to occupy their time.
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MITscratcher wrote:
I guess, it is rather overwhelming to create a big project, and that's all you'll really need to become part of Scratch history
Big projects do take awhile. When I made PSP (classic) the graphics seen to have taken forever. For people with hude complex projects with huge complex scripts must be completely overwhelmed.
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People in general tend to participate in on-line communities in different ways. Sometimes just as observers then as active participants then again as observers. I think it's a normal cycle.
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Oh well I've returned now. My internet was down. School or no school, I'm always on Scratch!
And yes, I have once experienced a very strong feeling of boredom, right after I finished my Make-a-Horse project. I think that happens because:
1. You run out of great ideas.
2. You are tired after a big project.
3. You feel like you've seen every corner of Scratch and have nothing more to discover.
4. ...and therefore you want to try out something new.
Also, some people (like me) can get tired of the Scratch community. I, for example, was tired of being popular. I felt that I have achieved the peak of popularity, and had no goals, only sit all day and check comments. Well, that feeling's passed now. Crank inc. saved me.
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GO CRANK_INC !! ^-^
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MyRedNeptune, what you said is so interesting !
I felt that way sometimes about other on-line communities, like Facebook for example. There is a point where we become so focused on the social connections that we forget to spend time on our own, creating things just for us. Popularity is like a dangerous thing because it can become so absorbing that you might forget your real sense of self.
It used to be that becoming popular was hard to achieve, but now, I feel that regular people like you and me can become popular by simply sharing a video on YouTube or a project in Scratch.
Lowering the barrier for popularity and social interactions is so interesting because on one hand it makes you feel empowered. It makes you think "I can create good things and get recognition". On the other hand it can become your only goal and then you don't do anything other than finding ways of getting recognition from others without thinking of yourself.
The social aspect of the creation is very important but it can be overwhelming. My hope is that the Scratch community doesn't become the main focus of people's time with Scratch but simply a tool to connect with others when needed.
I am glad you were able to externalize your thoughts a clear way and that you find in Crank Inc a place to do your work.
It's good to have a break of Scratch (or anything else) and get inspiration from other places: movies, people, places, art, etc. I think we all should do that more often.
I'd be interested in knowing what people do when they are not doing Scratch. My new favorite thing to do these days is cooking.
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You can't be scratching all days. When you have no Scratch-time on school, school is always more important. Scratch is fun. I've learned (and I'm learning!) a lot of math and logical thinking using scratch, but when big tests are coming, you have to study, not Scratch .
About popularity: "being popular" may not be the reason for someone to "scratch". You can get/be popular in many different ways. You can be an annoying "virus" (like glough for example) - it's strange, but everyone knows him, or you can get popular by helping lots of people (Like myRedNeptune), or by having very good projects like (archmage), and you can go on like this for a while.
Conclusion: The most important thing is having fun.
Joren
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I've started teaching full time, I don't have time to scratch.
I barely have time to visit the site...
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I do agree, sometimes when I feel as though I am a little exhausted at scratch, I'll usually create something or read a book; Sometimes it's good to get off the computer for a while. I have the opportunity to go on Scratch whenever I like, and I also started a Scratch club at school that has been running for about 5 weeks now, and I am constantly thinking of ideas for that too! So I do a lot of Scratch-ing!
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andresmh wrote:
MyRedNeptune, what you said is so interesting !
I felt that way sometimes about other on-line communities, like Facebook for example. There is a point where we become so focused on the social connections that we forget to spend time on our own, creating things just for us. Popularity is like a dangerous thing because it can become so absorbing that you might forget your real sense of self.
It used to be that becoming popular was hard to achieve, but now, I feel that regular people like you and me can become popular by simply sharing a video on YouTube or a project in Scratch.
Lowering the barrier for popularity and social interactions is so interesting because on one hand it makes you feel empowered. It makes you think "I can create good things and get recognition". On the other hand it can become your only goal and then you don't do anything other than finding ways of getting recognition from others without thinking of yourself.
The social aspect of the creation is very important but it can be overwhelming. My hope is that the Scratch community doesn't become the main focus of people's time with Scratch but simply a tool to connect with others when needed.
I am glad you were able to externalize your thoughts a clear way and that you find in Crank Inc a place to do your work.
It's good to have a break of Scratch (or anything else) and get inspiration from other places: movies, people, places, art, etc. I think we all should do that more often.
I'd be interested in knowing what people do when they are not doing Scratch. My new favorite thing to do these days is cooking.
I usually read when I'm not Scratching, I am BIG reader, and we don't have a TV, so I'm free of the TV-disease (I actually think it quite boring, especially Russian channels, eewww >xP). Also, I love to draw; I go to art school when I feel like I want to draw alone.... usually those are sketches, but I have a few serious pics.
Of course, I also study and go to school. A few days ago I switched schools; the new one is a lot better, and it's stronger. They study French, I never learned it before, so I'll have to catch up with the rest. It is very interesting! I love French.
And you are right about inspiration. Ideas don't usually come when you want. Taking a break and thinking of other things, especially about things you like, clears the mind and may give you a great idea you will truly like. You can try visiting other websites, or studying something you are interested in. For example, I studied horse color genetics, and thought that making a horse color-composing project would be fun, and thus Make-a-Horse was made. I never enjoyed making any other project as much as this one, and it turned out one of the best. It was REAL inspiration. You cannot make a project just because you HAVE to, or because you haven't posted for a long time. Scratch when you feel like it; do what you enjoy most! Have you ever read Bradley Trevor Greive's "The Meaning of Life"? (if not, read it, you'll love it!) "It's so important that you just do your own thing - whatever makes you truly happy - and do it as best as you can. It doesn't matter whether your "thing" is making snowballs, holding your breath underwater, hog calling, or wielding a hair-dryer with dramatic effect. The only thing that matters is that you feel great about what you're doing.
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When the weather is warmer, I'm usually out kayaking somewhere. Or building another boat or paddle...This time of year I can't do that so instead I am working with a paddling safety organization to organize a seminar this spring. Also right now I am practically living in Scratch land...so much so that some warning bells are starting to go off - I may need to take a break for awhile and work on reconnecting with some of my other interests again.
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Sometimes it feels like I spend my entire life in front of the computer, since my work involves teaching and doing research in bioinformatics, and in my spare time I try to keep up with the Scratch forums and participate in other chat boards. We don't have a TV, so we avoid one of the biggest time wasters.
I do manage to read a couple of books a week, but this is way down from what I used to read. I envy my son, who manages to read much more than me, despite having a lot of homework. (He's been using Scratch for his science fair project this year, which has been interesting to watch—I expect he'll post the projects when he has finished the science fair.)
We don't have a car, so I do spend a fair amount of time walking or bicycling to work or running errands. This gets me some exercise and some time for thinking or daydreaming. I walk my son to school in the morning and to his Dungeons and Dragons games on Sundays, which gives us a chance to chat about various things.
Once a week I run a Tech Club at my son's school. Mostly the kids do Scratch programs, but we tried making chainmail (I also helped out my son's history class with this), and I'd like to do some soldering projects or card weaving projects. Last year we made some soda-bottle rocket launchers—we'll probably do that again this Spring when the weather warms up. I write a one-page newsletter for the Tech Club each week. You can see it at http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/karplus/tech_club/
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Well I don't want to see Archmage leaving Scratch because he is an awesome scratcher.
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My mom tells me i spend a lot of time on the computer, she always says Lanie get off scratch and come eat dinner or something liek that, scary thing is she doesn't even know if im on scratch she guesses and she is right!
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In september when I start grade 7, I'll probrably be not on the Scratch website as much. I'll have a lot of homework. I also won't be on very much in the summer. Me and my friends go on bike rides all day, all summer. We need to build a new fort in a different revine because the one we built our last fort in had poison ivy.... and people went down there to do drugs sometimes. All of Ottawa isn't a drug heaven.... all of Vancouver is.
Anyway, back on topic. I think I need less time on the computer and more time with my family and friends. I think every scratcher should. Like Lanie said. She spends 5 hours sometimes... yeah me too. I need to stop that.
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