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#1 2009-10-10 00:46:59

Chrischb
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Top Loved: Ratio of views to love-its, not age to love-its

There have been many projects made by users who are unknown. Therefore, they aren't found and recognized. Some can have 200 views and 30 love-its, which is a very good ratio. Any that's 1 love-it to 10 views is good.
I have seen many projects that have been rarely ever viewed, but when found, are given love-its, cheerful comments, etc.. The Top Loved consists mainly of projects that have been discovered quickly, and given many love-its as a result.

Would it be better to change it?


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#2 2009-10-10 08:26:31

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Re: Top Loved: Ratio of views to love-its, not age to love-its

In my opinion it wouldn't. If we did that, then anyone could make a project with, say the Scratch cat on, tell their friends to put a couple of loveits, and get top viewed. The people could get "famous" with little to no work at all, instead of making quality projects that people want to see.


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#3 2009-10-10 23:14:07

Chrischb
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Re: Top Loved: Ratio of views to love-its, not age to love-its

steppenwulf wrote:

In my opinion it wouldn't. If we did that, then anyone could make a project with, say the Scratch cat on, tell their friends to put a couple of loveits, and get top viewed. The people could get "famous" with little to no work at all, instead of making quality projects that people want to see.

I suppose you're right... the only solutions I can think of are to:

The project has to have 20+ loveits.
The project has to be a week old or more.

Even though it's a problem, I'd rather have the solutions than the age to loveits ratio. Some projects take time to get loved, while others take no time at all.


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#4 2009-10-11 02:28:04

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Re: Top Loved: Ratio of views to love-its, not age to love-its

I think that thee age:loveits ration should certainly be changed.
I like Chrischb's idea of at least 20+.
That way, it will rule out the possibility of '100%' loved if the only view does.
Age could still be a factor, though. One thought is to rate them based on 'loveit acceleration.' So, a project that sits around for 2 years with only 5 views, then gets popular, could be recognised. This method should, of course, exclude projects featured on the front page.


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#5 2009-10-11 03:45:13

Chrischb
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Re: Top Loved: Ratio of views to love-its, not age to love-its

billyedward wrote:

I think that thee age:loveits ration should certainly be changed.
I like Chrischb's idea of at least 20+.
That way, it will rule out the possibility of '100%' loved if the only view does.
Age could still be a factor, though. One thought is to rate them based on 'loveit acceleration.' So, a project that sits around for 2 years with only 5 views, then gets popular, could be recognised. This method should, of course, exclude projects featured on the front page.

Of course. Projects that are already popular have no need to be put on the front page again, unless the curators want to choose it.


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#6 2009-10-11 05:41:48

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Re: Top Loved: Ratio of views to love-its, not age to love-its

I agree with Chrischb and billyedward.


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#7 2009-10-11 13:34:49

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Re: Top Loved: Ratio of views to love-its, not age to love-its

oddly enough, I was thinking about this. It would have to be within a certain age range though, and more than one view one love-it...


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#8 2009-10-11 17:15:05

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Re: Top Loved: Ratio of views to love-its, not age to love-its

I think this would work a lot better than the system they have now.

Distant future: Top-Loved by demographical age, gender, etc, wouldn't that be cool!

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#9 2009-10-12 17:42:53

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Re: Top Loved: Ratio of views to love-its, not age to love-its

would not work for ratio of views to love its, because if one person views it and loves it, then it would be 1:1.

also, demographics of age, gender, etc. I don't think that would be so great as based on the project type, if you want variety. Sometimes I want an extended list of the Top Viewed and Top Loved lately projects, because going to the top viewed and top loved ever list just gives the same thing every time and the lately projects are on like the 1500th page and spread several pages apart.

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#10 2009-10-13 05:29:50

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Re: Top Loved: Ratio of views to love-its, not age to love-its

DarthPickley wrote:

would not work for ratio of views to love its, because if one person views it and loves it, then it would be 1:1.

also, demographics of age, gender, etc. I don't think that would be so great as based on the project type, if you want variety. Sometimes I want an extended list of the Top Viewed and Top Loved lately projects, because going to the top viewed and top loved ever list just gives the same thing every time and the lately projects are on like the 1500th page and spread several pages apart.

Read the above posts. We decided on a 20+ loveit count, and other matters.


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#11 2009-10-13 06:00:22

Jonathanpb
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Re: Top Loved: Ratio of views to love-its, not age to love-its

Should something be changed in the "Propose projects to get featured" topic? One of the rules is "No more than five love its", which is quite silly in some cases. It is very easy to get over five love its and not have the project popular at all. It could even take a year! Do you think that that project should be allowed to get on the front page? It isn't fair... if anything, it should say "The project can not have more than five love its if the project is under two weeks old". That's better. But think about it... only five people need to view the project for it to get five love its. And that can actually happen only in the Newest Projects! We have to draw the line somewhere...


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