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martianshark wrote:

Chrischb wrote:

martianshark wrote:

I read that, and you can still look at other forums if you don't want to play text based games

You just don't get it, do you? It's not that we don't like playing the Text-Based-Games. If it were just that, we'd take your advice and avoid it.

What we're saying is different.

What us twenty-one people have realized is that the forums don't need the Text-Based-Games. It takes up space, which 1. slows up the forums, and 2. costs the Scratch Team more money.
We have realized that there is simply no need. It's extra cost, and the forums would benefit without it. It's there to help people, not to be a forum that people can use for fun.

If you support Text-Based-Games, why not take your own advice and find a different forum? There will be some out there that support forum games.

1. You obviously have no idea how the internet works. Each Forum is a different page, and unless you have a milion internet tabs of every single forum on Scratch, it doesn't take up any more space than if it was deleted.
2. You obviously have no idea how the internet works. The MIT owns their own website. They have their own server. They don't pay someone else to do it, that would be stupid.

You don't get how the internet works. They don't pay someone else to do it... they pay for their website.

cheddargirl wrote:

Just to post some relevant info here:

andresmh wrote:

The Scratch team is analyzing this issue and will come up with a solution in collaboration with the forums moderators. Stay tuned.

(Taken from here: http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=233897#p233897)

As andresmh said, the Scratch Team is discussing about the issue of what to do about Text-Based Games with collaboration of the moderators. There have been discussion about both the benefits and detriments associated with the text-based games. Hopefully, a solution can be determined soon, and the text-based games issue can come to a close. 

Yay! I'm glad that Andrés and the rest of the group (including you,    ) are discussing this.

Are you thinking about the three questions? I think that that's the best way to decide.

The three questions:

Does the Text-Based Games belong in the Scratch Forums?
Is it part of Scratch?
Does it help the Scratch Community?

I think that's the best way.

For more information, please check out my topic An important question about the Text-Based Games (ignore the fact that it's a new topic). I realize that it should say "Important questions" instead, but too late to change it now. 

cheddargirl wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Yay! I'm glad that Andrés and the rest of the group (including you,    ) are discussing this.

Are you thinking about the three questions? I think that that's the best way to decide.

The three questions:

Does the Text-Based Games belong in the Scratch Forums?
Is it part of Scratch?
Does it help the Scratch Community?

I think that's the best way.

Yes, part of the discussion involves the issues that you have put forth in your three questions. As stated before, we have been looking at how text-based games have been beneficial and have been detrimental to the Scratch community in order to come up with an appropriate solution. As andresmh put it best: "stay tuned" 

Okay.

Stay tuned, folks!

That was fun.

Last edited by Chrischb (2009-10-03 04:42:25)

cheddargirl wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Yay! I'm glad that Andrés and the rest of the group (including you,    ) are discussing this.

Are you thinking about the three questions? I think that that's the best way to decide.

The three questions:

Does the Text-Based Games belong in the Scratch Forums?
Is it part of Scratch?
Does it help the Scratch Community?

I think that's the best way.

Yes, part of the discussion involves the issues that you have put forth in your three questions. As stated before, we have been looking at how text-based games have been beneficial and have been detrimental to the Scratch community in order to come up with an appropriate solution. As andresmh put it best: "stay tuned" 

finally this whole thing can come to an end! i'm staying tunned!

Last edited by Mini_mi (2009-10-03 10:59:49)

1425 people have seen this post as of now. 20 people agree with it. I highly doubt you're going to win this.

Wickimen wrote:

1425 people have seen this post as of now. 20 people agree with it. I highly doubt you're going to win this.

Views just means how many times someone has seen the page. I could refresh the page 100 times, and it would get 100 more views.

As for this issue, honestly, I really don't care. I never go on the TBG forum, I think I posted there like, once...? No, it doesn't help the scratch community. Yes, it's a waste of time for the mods. I wish there were robot mods. That would make everything better.

ADD MEH 2 TEH LISHT!

Jonathanpb wrote:

martianshark wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Does anyone even understand what we mean?

Mr_X, Blade-Edge is banned and you can't ask him.
You are perfectly allowed to have your own opinion.
You say that it's a bad idea... can you explain why that is? It's always better to explain instead of just saying that it's a bad idea.

martianshark, we can't just go and look at other forums. We want the Scratch Forums instead of any old forum (since the Scratch Forums are about Scratch), of course.

It makes more sense for you to go to a different forum. We use the Scratch Forums because we want to discuss Scratch. You use the Scratch Forums because it has games. And which makes more sense (and I actually want an answer from you guys): moving the Scratch stuff out of the Scratch Forums, or moving the games out?

I'm getting tired of argueing with you. You don't get it. The forum games are good. They don't really help the scratch community, but would it help the scratch community if it was deleted? No, it wouldn't. Nothing would change exept for trouble, quitting, complaining, spamming, and more.

I am tired too.

You don't get it. Yes, the games are good.
If having the Text-Based Games or not doesn't make a difference (according to your views), which is better: having a useless forum, or not having one (the chaos will die down very quickly).

If people quit, we would be left with users [i[who actually care about the Scratch Community.[/i] I can't wait.

It's not useless, and the chaos would stay for a very long time. It would be at least a couple of months for people to start calming down. What makes you think it would die down in a couple of days!? And why do you care about people quitting? Quitting isn't good. We are supposed to be freindly and welcoming. Do you think this is going to set a good example?

Wickimen wrote:

1425 people have seen this post as of now. 20 people agree with it. I highly doubt you're going to win this.

Oh, really? It's not like we only ever view this page once.

And check your math, Wickimen!

20 is greater than 7. Well?

Correction: I highly doubt you're going to win. And besides, the people who have the power to change it are on OUR side!

martianshark wrote:

I think the questions should be:
Does it help the Scratch community?
Will it help the Scratch community if it was deleted?
Does it matter if there's an off topic thread?

Does it help the Scratch community? Not at all.
Will it help the Scratch community if it was deleted? Of course! All the forum effort would go into helping other users.
Does it matter if there's an off topic thread? No, provided it's clear that it's for the people who only use the forums for the games.

Last edited by Chrischb (2009-10-04 00:42:54)

i have a serious point that will effect most of you Dragons! if you take away the insperation and more were are people going to post there dragon eggs? if people don't have the insperation and more fourm we are going to be seing a lot of dead eggs in peoples sigs and posts and then you would really see alot of spam about dragon eggs everywhere else! so just think of that!
and i have seen alot of people who are posting on this fourm in the dragon egg hatchery, such as cheddarirl who said she loved the dragons!

Last edited by Mini_mi (2009-10-04 09:39:22)

Mini_mi wrote:

i have a serious point that will effect most of you Dragons! if you take away the insperation and more were are people going to post there dragon eggs? if people don't have the insperation and more fourm we are going to be seing a lot of dead eggs in peoples sigs and posts and then you would really see alot of spam about dragon eggs everywhere else! so just think of that!
and i have seen alot of people who are posting on this fourm in the dragon egg hatchery, such as cheddarirl who said she loved the dragons!

Calm down, Mini_mi, no one ever said 'Inspiration and More' is going away. It is only the Text-Based Games that are going to be affected by whatever solution the Scratch Team will implement. To my knowledge, the 'Inspiration and More' forums are staying (and so are the oh-so-colorful dragon and dragon eggs threads). 

cheddargirl wrote:

Mini_mi wrote:

i have a serious point that will effect most of you Dragons! if you take away the insperation and more were are people going to post there dragon eggs? if people don't have the insperation and more fourm we are going to be seing a lot of dead eggs in peoples sigs and posts and then you would really see alot of spam about dragon eggs everywhere else! so just think of that!
and i have seen alot of people who are posting on this fourm in the dragon egg hatchery, such as cheddarirl who said she loved the dragons!

Calm down, Mini_mi, no one ever said 'Inspiration and More' is going away. It is only the Text-Based Games that are going to be affected by whatever solution the Scratch Team will implement. To my knowledge, the 'Inspiration and More' forums are staying (and so are the oh-so-colorful dragon and dragon eggs threads). 

in the beginnig i thuoght i read abput insperation and more should go too, but maybe i was wrong!

Last edited by Mini_mi (2009-10-04 15:47:49)

I don't think they can do that. There are limits to what they can do with a PunBB forum that there isn't in a PHBB forum (or do I have the names mixed up).