Scratch

Plz dont do that cause if u do this it will good for begginers but then why dont you make a version of scratch that can think what to do and u just say to it by voice there will be no effort then why will it be a proggramming language if u do this it will become an AI programming Software.

fanofcena wrote:

Plz dont do that cause if u do this it will good for begginers but then why dont you make a version of scratch that can think what to do and u just say to it by voice there will be no effort then why will it be a proggramming language if u do this it will become an AI programming Software.

I'm certain that Scratch won't become like that.

This would be pretty useful. Along with this (if you are to implement it) I think it would be cool to have tools on the website that help find the scripts you are looking for.

There would be an index of these scripts on the website and the user could either look it up in the index of use a search tool. Also, each script would let users report if the script does or does not not work and each script would show how many people said it worked or didn't work. This would help people find good scripts and avoid bad ones.

Wow - seems great.

However you might not want to make things to complicated 

You could add an item to the right-click context menu of a script saying "Share this script online..." and sharing it on the site  - just like Jens made his xml script export a very long while back xD . People could look for scripts on the Scratch site and download the ones the need. (They should be previewed on the site)

I think things would work best when the "uploader" of the scripts adds keywords to it, and the downloader searches for keywords.

Thanks a lot for the great comments.  I guess I should emphasize the questions we have for you:

1. What kinds of things would you search for?

2. What kinds of block stacks could you imaginge annotating?

3. Can you think of a few different examples where people might use different words for the same thing? For example, you might annotate something as "keeping score" but someone else is searching for "counting points".

Thanks!

This sounds like a great idea, but I don't fully understand it. Could you explain it again?
From what I understand, I would make afew suggestions. 1. Make It a choice to download either the primary version of scratch we have right now, or that one, OR both. Its just inconvieneint if I download it, don't like it, and go through the hassle of downloading again.

How do you publish your scripting? Because some false scripts could be sent in, and that would mean trouble.

What's a ScratchR?

Seems like an amazing idea! Perfect for beginners and people who make big projects.

I think you would need the following essential scripts:

- Scrolling X and Y
- Basic movement (changing x and y/ move steps with left and right arrow keys)
- Advanced movement (using velocity to move using arrow keys)
- Costume Change
- Gravity
- Wall sensing
- Score
- I'll add more if I think of them

Also, if this feature is released, I think the website should have a new section which has these script stacks which you could maybe download so that it's optional to use them or not.

Overall, I think it's a great idea and would love to hear more about it!

1. What kinds of things would you search for?

Scrolling
Infinite Scrolling
4-way Scrolling
Gravity
Jumping
Platforms
Solid Walls
Shooting
Multi-shot Shooting
3D
Bouncing

2. What kinds of block stacks could you imaginge annotating?

Arrow Key Control - XY
Arrow Key Control - Steering/Forward/Reverse
Arrow Key Control - Platformer
Arrow Key Control - Space ship with acceleration
Gun - No Gravity
Gun - With Gravity
Gun - Multi-shot
Mouse Control - Follow the mouse
Mouse Control - Rotate and translate
Bounce - Off Edges
Bounce - Off sprites
Bounce - With gravity
Wrap around the screen
Solid Walls - translating sprite
Solid Walls - rotating and translating sprite
Solid Walls - scrolling platformer



3. Can you think of a few different examples where people might use different words for the same thing? For example, you might annotate something as "keeping score" but someone else is searching for "counting points".

Infinite Scrolling / Loop Scrolling / Endless Scrolling
Gun / Shoot / Cannon / Projectile
Walls / Obstructions

andresmh wrote:

Thanks a lot for the great comments.  I guess I should emphasize the questions we have for you:

1. What kinds of things would you search for?

2. What kinds of block stacks could you imaginge annotating?

3. Can you think of a few different examples where people might use different words for the same thing? For example, you might annotate something as "keeping score" but someone else is searching for "counting points".

Thanks!

1. Well, i'd probably be searching for the scrolling scripts    It's the only thing that still confuses me. Perhaps they could have a rating on whether they're basic or advanced scripts?

2. Edit: Misread this one..

Movement - Basic
Movement - Velocity
Costume - Change on prompt
Costume - Change automatically
Scrolling - etc:
Health - Enemy
Health - Self

3. Movement/motion, effects/looks/ghost/colour... , Scrolling/sliding.

Last edited by 06dknibbs (2010-10-22 08:49:02)

Wow, that's a lot of really good stuff! I'm Ken, one of Andrés's friends at the Media Lab.

@jacool: Yeah, the final version will definitely give credit where it's due. It's really cool to see how other people re-use and change your scripts. My friend Yannick, also in the Media Lab, came up with some cool visualizations we might use.

@archmage: We're putting the search tool right inside Scratch, so you don't even have to leave your program. (It might be cool to have a web interface too.) And we'd love to know how useful each script is. (also @chrischb): Do you think it's enough to just consider a script useful if it's in a project that gets shared, or would you want something more? (@archmage: "last scratch project"? what are you switching to? just curious.)

@cheddargirl: If you find a script that doesn't quite work right for you, you'll probably have to figure out how it works; often trying to figure out how someone else did something opens your mind.

@BoltBait: That tutorial gallery looks great; thanks for the link! We're definitely thinking about how to show some context along with the scripts, and even how to show only scripts that came from projects like yours.

@dav09 and others: This isn't going to be officially released anytime soon. We're imagining and creating the future, but the Scratch team is working hard on improving things today too.

@06dknibbs: Did you see http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/SampleProjectsTeam/583769 or http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/WeirdF/678431 ?

A major shout-out to all those who took the time to make long lists of examples. They've already been very helpful -- keep them coming! Also, we're going to be sending instructions to individual people on how to download an experimental version of Scratch. Depending on the response, we may share it more publicly. Remember this is experimental.

Thanks again everybody, and as Andrés likes to say, Scratch on!

Last edited by kcarnold (2009-09-16 12:39:38)