Scratch

So to summarize, you are saying that you looked into the source code and saw squeak code that runs scripts for the blocks. That should not be a surprise. You could have found that out by looking at the wikipedia page for  scratch.

Last edited by archmage (2009-07-10 03:21:45)

archmage wrote:

So to summarize, you are saying that you looked into the source code and saw squeak code that runs scripts for the blocks. That should not be a surprise. You could have found that out by looking at the wikipedia page for  scratch.

I did But it did not have complete info about it

it is real
case closed

You cannot catorgorize these things. Scratch is Scratch.

sanda427 wrote:

Scratch is Sorta an introduction to programming. It is teaching people the basics, to give them a bit of a feeling what it's like to program, to create demonstartions and a community. There's lots of real programmers that are more.. advanced.

This had already been resolved
And Scratch IS real programming software

tcb wrote:

Whats that supposed to mean? ps: scratch is not a proggramming language, its aa scripting language. less powerfull, runs slower.

Scratch is not a programming language or scripting language. It is an intro. I learned Scratch then learned applescript, then bash, then smalltalk 80, and now I am learning objective c.

quote from wikipedia"Definitions
Traits often considered important for constituting a programming language:

Function: A programming language is a language used to write computer programs, which involve a computer performing some kind of computation[2] or algorithm and possibly control external devices such as printers, robots,[3] and so on.
Target: Programming languages differ from natural languages in that natural languages are only used for interaction between people, while programming languages also allow humans to communicate instructions to machines. Some programming languages are used by one device to control another. For example PostScript programs are frequently created by another program to control a computer printer or display.
Constructs: Programming languages may contain constructs for defining and manipulating data structures or controlling the flow of execution.
Expressive power: The theory of computation classifies languages by the computations they are capable of expressing. All Turing complete languages can implement the same set of algorithms. ANSI/ISO SQL and Charity are examples of languages that are not Turing complete, yet often called programming languages.[4][5]
Some authors restrict the term "programming language" to those languages that can express all possible algorithms;[6] sometimes the term "computer language" is used for more limited artificial languages.

Non-computational languages, such as markup languages like HTML or formal grammars like BNF, are usually not considered programming languages. A programming language (which may or may not be Turing complete) may be embedded in these non-computational (host) languages.
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songhead95 wrote:

tcb wrote:

Whats that supposed to mean? ps: scratch is not a proggramming language, its aa scripting language. less powerfull, runs slower.

Scratch is not a programming language or scripting language. It is an intro.

Is that your opinion? or a fact derived from logic?

scratch is a simple programing system designed to be easy to use for everyone. MIT did the hard job of making something hard simple.

It depends. The definition if program is 'the act or process of planning or writing a program'. You don't write programs in Scratch, you snap blocks together, but you do create programs.

Scratch is real programming language, it's just not very powerful.

Don't forget about Squeak-Smalltalk's snappable functions and Jens's Elements (the scratch-like smalltalk thing).

For me, Scratch is some kinda programming language made to:
- learn basics of programming
- develop the "open-source" sharing spirit
- pull kids out of Counter-Strike or WoW.