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#1 2009-08-21 09:35:43

markyparky56
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Written version or blocks.

Would it be possible to have a section of the right click drop down menu, when you right click a block, to have a bit saying, view written version of this block? Or something along those lines? For i think it would really help learning the next step up from scratch.

opinions please...

p.s. sorry about the title, only just noitced, supposed to say Written version of blocks.

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#2 2009-08-22 16:49:31

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Re: Written version or blocks.

Instead of having to drag around blocks, I'd quite like to type my scripts out, so I second this suggestion. It'd probably save my computer too, because the blocks really lag it some. I don't know whether it's cause Scratch is poorly optimised for Windows, or whether I need to update my hardware, pronto.

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#3 2009-08-23 04:10:07

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Re: Written version or blocks.

Here are some problems:

1: It would be very tedious to type out, which would be extremely tiresome for those who can't touch-type.
2: You wouldn't be able to use comments, because they wouldn't fit in. Of course, you can have comments in the same way as C++ and other code, but that's just not the same.
3: Learners would have trouble with it, so they would have to stick with the blocks. There isn't anything wrong with that, but it's something worth pointing out.
4: It'd be much more finnicky than using blocks; for example, finding a bug would be far harder.
5: It's just not Scratch.

But don't think I dislike the idea; I like it!


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#4 2009-08-23 14:12:05

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Re: Written version or blocks.

1. Way to describe every programming language.
2. ##Yeah, comments couldn't possible be used.
   /* Absolutely not */
3,4,5. The thing about seeing it written out is that it's the next step up from learning to use it with blocks. If some people choose not to use it, fine. If others do, fine.

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#5 2009-08-24 00:00:30

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Re: Written version or blocks.

Good summary! Here's what I think:

1. True. But Scratch is supposed to be easy for kids, so it's not the best idea.
2. We agree there.
3,4,5. It's true that it's the next step up, and you phrased it brilliantly.


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#6 2009-08-24 04:00:10

Jonathanpb
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Re: Written version or blocks.

I agree with you all. I like the idea, but it seems pretty much impossible. Which is very sad. However, the reasons that you both listed show that we don't have to feel upset about it all.


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#7 2009-08-24 07:35:36

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Re: Written version or blocks.

Someone might make a 'Text Scratch' in the future...

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#8 2009-08-24 10:10:47

elephaant
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Re: Written version or blocks.

Jonathanpb wrote:

but it seems pretty much impossible.

[citation needed]

The-Whiz wrote:

Someone might make a 'Text Scratch' in the future...

cool story bro.

I don't know whether that's a plug for your ScratchText or what.

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#9 2009-08-24 11:10:40

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Re: Written version or blocks.

Why don't you try downloading the source code and edit that etc. That's about as easy as what you're describing.


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#10 2009-08-24 13:00:32

elephaant
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Re: Written version or blocks.

The point is that the commands made with blocks can be seen and edited as text. Entirely optional, and there for the people who want it.

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#11 2009-08-25 15:30:11

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Re: Written version or blocks.

What i was trying to say, is...

I was suggesting a little button in the drop down menu, when you right click, which says View written version of block

For those who said about notes, if you haven't taken a look at a Learn <Insert programing language here> They have something likes this.

This is pseudocode (Not proper code, but im just using it as an example)

Code:

If student's grade is greater than or equal to 60 // <Insert note here>


Print "passed" //this is a note

else // look! another note!

Print "failed" //note, note, note, note

Pseudocode is a logical code, easy for learning new codes. Or my programer friend said so anyway.

Anyway, notes aren't related to what i was saying.

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