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#1 2007-05-22 11:15:10

brucecattanach
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Registered: 2007-05-22
Posts: 1

Moving from MicroWorlds to Scratch ?

Hi, 

I've been working with the text based MicroWorlds since the Mac LogoWriter.  What would be the "educational rational" for moving to Scratch?   I also worked with MIT's YellowBrickLogo and now with MicroWorlds EX Robotics and the Lego Robots.  Is anyone considering the move from text based language to the Icon based language?

Bruce Cattanach
The Lakeview School
Denville NJ  07834-3419   

http://www.cattanach.org
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#2 2007-05-25 18:36:17

room209
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Registered: 2007-03-17
Posts: 94

Re: Moving from MicroWorlds to Scratch ?

I used Microworlds in a school and a museum summer camp setting and faced the same question that you ask.  I work mainly with 9 to 12 year olds but have also tried both programs with younger kids.  I switched over to Scratch completely in the school setting and have been delighted to see the surge in interest and energy kids have for programming projects.  Possible reasons in favor of Scratch:

Kids can do more of their own debugging--their errors tend to be about syntax in Scratch instead of spelling.
The choices for blocks are there on the screen and they have been more likely to find something useful and try it out on their own.
Variables make just about instant sense, whereas working through setting them up and getting them to work was something most kids this age never became independent with.
The kids are taking the programming and trying new things on their own at home, because it is free and because of all of the above.
They can be successful at a pretty basic level and then are motivated to try new things.  With Microworlds, I always had a few kids that got it and an awful lot that needed considerable handholding.  The new EX version of MW gets even more complex for a beginning user to sort through.
We also had many problems with compatiblity with Microworlds and our Macs--unexplained crashes.  The bugs in Scratch are getting ironed out nicely.

The kids who have done both tell me that Scratch is more fun but people who want challenge should also learn MW.

This isn't exactly educational rational in terms of what kind of programming language makes sense, but for me the way kids take off on their own with it matters.

Karen
Expo School in St. Paul, MN

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#3 2007-05-27 12:57:44

mres
Scratch Team
Registered: 2007-03-08
Posts: 48

Re: Moving from MicroWorlds to Scratch ?

Here's how I think about it...

Scratch has a "lower floor" (easier for beginners to get started, because of graphical "building block" approach) while Microworlds has a somewhat "higher ceiling" (can work on more complex projects).

Scratch has more capabilities for manipulating media (image effects, etc.), while Microworlds has more capabilities for manipulating data (lists, text boxes, etc.)

Also, it's easier to share Scratch projects on the web.

Mitch Resnick
MIT Scratch Team

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