Scratch

Heybrian wrote:

MITscratcher wrote:

I have now been using Scratch for over 2 years and am now moving on to more advanced languages. I am now learning how to program with "Squeak". I am young (I am not going to state my age, for privacy), but I am hoping to program with Squeak and more advanced languages the way I have learned to use Scratch.
In this Forum, discuss how long you have been using Scratch, and how you are going to continue with programing. Here, we will also discuss how (for those who are using Squeak or smalltalk), you are learning and programing with it.

P.S. This gallery was mainly for serious programmers, in which are going to continue programing in their life.

uhhhh... sorry to say this, but do simething better with your life. dont just sit and program all day.

I like sitting around and programming all day 

I do pascal, html, java, and actionscript 2.0 but mostly just java and actionscript.

MITscratcher wrote:

archmage wrote:

Heybrian wrote:

uhhhh... sorry to say this, but do simething better with your life. dont just sit and program all day.

I like sitting around and programming all day 

I do pascal, html, java, and actionscript 2.0 but mostly just java and actionscript.

You are funny archmage! . . . The more we program, the smarter we get, and then we are the ones who may get into MIT! lol.

yeah but uhh no one wants to get onto scratch and they dont accept peaple

no one can get onto scratch. Its a live thing. you live where scratch company owner lives, you live in scratch. o btw you dont neccecarley get smarter each ti,me we program look
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Heybrian wrote:

MITscratcher wrote:

archmage wrote:

I like sitting around and programming all day 

I do pascal, html, java, and actionscript 2.0 but mostly just java and actionscript.

You are funny archmage! . . . The more we program, the smarter we get, and then we are the ones who may get into MIT! lol.

yeah but uhh no one wants to get onto scratch and they dont accept peaple

You can get into MIT... if you have 46 thousand dollars. A year.

MyRedNeptune, although MIT is expensive, you can't buy your way in (at least not for that little money).  The admissions process for any of the top universities is much more complicated than that!
Look at
http://www.mitadmissions.org/
They give information about what the score range is for students who got accepted and lots of other stuff about the application process. 

Even though the sticker price for top universities is high, most of them have financial aid packages that make it much more affordable.  (Something like 90% of MIT students get some financial aid.)

If you want to go to a top university, you should work on getting good grades, doing well on tests, and doing interesting things with your spare time (not just play video games and hang out at the mall).  The universities are looking for smart people who do interesting things.

And don't look just at the reputation of the school, but find out what they are actually doing with their undergrad students.  Some schools are great places to be a grad student but terrible for undergrads, since the faculty have no time for the undergrads. Others have great undergrad teaching, but not much research, which can also be limiting.  What you want is a school that does research in areas that you are particularly interested in and involves its undergrads in the research.  MIT has a pretty good track record in this regard for some fields (like the MIT media lab that Scratch came out of), and not so good in other fields.

Hi, again, MITScratcher.

By the way, I went to MIT as an undergraduate, and I loved it.

I was interested in many things while I was growing up--science, computers, music, the outdoors, photography, electronics, and reading. I was fortunate to have parents and teachers who encouraged my interests and helped me learn more about them. For example, my high school did not offer a second year of physics, but the physics teacher let me do an independent study my senior year. I learned a lot about black holes and relativity, and I also worked through a big part of a college-level physics book. I got a good score on the AP physics exam, but that's not why I did the independent study. I just thought physics was fascinating and wanted to know more about it. (At the time I thought I would major in physics, but I ended up switching to electrical engineering and then to computer science.)

I also liked to build things, sometimes from kits and sometimes on my own. Some things I built worked, others were spectacular failures. But I had fun learning by trying things out. Programming is like that--you learn a lot by trying things out.

I did not know much about MIT until my junior year of high school. But once I learned about MIT, I knew it would be a great place for me. And I was right! At MIT, many of the other students had a lot of my "nerdy" interests. They liked to learn and many of them also liked to build things using what they learned. It is hard to get into MIT. I did not have perfect grades or test scores, so I was surprised that I got in. And it was pretty expensive. My dad was not sure we could afford it, but I got summer jobs to pay for part of it myself and his company helped out with a partial scholarship. MIT does give a lot of financial aid and you can also get student loans to help out.

I did enjoy MIT, and MIT is a great college to shoot for. But if MIT had not admitted me, or if I could not figure out how to pay for it, I think I could have been just as happy at another college. I was not so luck with graduate school. I did not get into my first three choices, but I ended up loving the one I did get into. With a bit of creativity and bit of flexibility, you can find ways to pursue your interests where ever you end up.

Here are two big lessons I've learned:

  1. Follow your own interests. I can't tell you how often something that I learned just "for fun" has turned out to be useful later on.

  2. Take charge of your own education. It's amazing how much you can teach yourself just by reading books, using the internet, asking people, and trying things out on your own. If you are interested in a subject, learning it on your own is incredibly exciting and fun. And if you get into the habit of learning on your own, you will enjoy doing it for your whole life.

If you do these two things, I think you will spend your life doing interesting things, even if you do sometimes run into setbacks--such as not getting into your first choice of graduate school. And you will never get bored because there are so many interesting things to learn.

  -- John

Last edited by johnm (2008-01-11 19:08:55)

Ive tried way too much languages out    ! html, javascript, actionscript, scratch, even DOS commands (You never know... Maybe it's usefull sometimes... NOT) and Qbasic, and VBA. Ok, i think the list is finshed, and i know it is enough for a guy programming 3 or 4 years.

By now, scratch is the most used, because it goes way faster to program a game. Second place javascript/html (most advanced work by now: scratchresources.tk), third flash actionscript, and the rest is useless.

I really would like to learn a little squeak smalltalk, but i don't know how to start. And Ialso do not understand the difference between squeak and smalltalk - yet. Any suggestions on how to learn squeak?

johmn wrote:

If you like to learn from books, my favorite book about Smalltalk-80 is "Smalltalk-80: The Language". This book is about Smalltalk, in general, not Squeak specifically, but I think it does a great job of explaining all the core ideas in the first five chapters. It can also be used as reference.

You can download this book as pdf for free here: http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks/BlueBook/