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#1 2009-07-12 18:09:30

BWOG
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Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

I am tired of this stuff, and I'm sure you are too. Just join the protest, and hopefully they'll get the point.



PROTESTERS:
BWOG
big-bang
fireball123
Xkhaoz


PROTESTER QUOTES:
"I'm sick of this. It's pointless, stupid and dumb. If you want to draw, just join DeviantArt or something. It annoys all of the other Scratchers. Scratch needs games, not pointless videos like this. I'm so sick of it." - BWOG

"Why is it poplular? Because almost everyone likes cats and drawing. And I personally think that everyone who does those stupid cat things are annoying, and have no idea how annoying it is. I really don't want to see drawings, more drawings, and even more drawings on the front page. It's just so stupid, dumb, and pointless. If you're wanting to draw, just join some art website where there's nothing but art. It's just plain annoying. Scratch is for programming, not drawing a picture and adding some song everyones heard of already" - BWOG

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#2 2009-07-12 18:13:47

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

I'm in.


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#3 2009-07-12 18:14:13

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

-_-''''' You can't believe how ticked off I amat "anti-art" Scratchers.


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#4 2009-07-12 18:16:05

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

littletonkslover wrote:

-_-''''' You can't believe how ticked off I amat "anti-art" Scratchers.

We are not "anti-art" scratchers. We are "anti-front page taken over by art" scratchers.

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#5 2009-07-12 18:16:44

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

I don't feel one way or the other. Shouldn't we have the freedom to do what we want? (I personally do not do those drawings, so don't blow up at me)


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#6 2009-07-12 18:18:41

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

The-Whiz wrote:

littletonkslover wrote:

-_-''''' You can't believe how ticked off I amat "anti-art" Scratchers.

We are not "anti-art" scratchers. We are "anti-front page taken over by art" scratchers.

Exactly what The-Whiz said.

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#7 2009-07-12 18:20:22

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

greenflash wrote:

I don't feel one way or the other. Shouldn't we have the freedom to do what we want? (I personally do not do those drawings, so don't blow up at me)

This is true.

The only thing is, half the Scratch population is obsessed with drawings.

EDIT: My 700th post!

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#8 2009-07-12 18:20:42

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

greenflash wrote:

I don't feel one way or the other. Shouldn't we have the freedom to do what we want? (I personally do not do those drawings, so don't blow up at me)

Actually,I'm with Greenflash here.I don't care if games swallow up the front page.


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#9 2009-07-12 18:40:17

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

Add Me!!!


I did it for the Lolz

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#10 2009-07-12 18:53:17

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

The-Whiz wrote:

littletonkslover wrote:

-_-''''' You can't believe how ticked off I amat "anti-art" Scratchers.

We are not "anti-art" scratchers. We are "anti-front page taken over by art" scratchers.

basically were just mad that stuff thats easier to do beats the stuff that is harder to do, in MOST cases not ALL cases.


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#11 2009-07-12 19:03:38

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=155407#p155407 here is a better idea, instead of getting mad at each other we should've come up with a solution.  so heres one  smile


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#12 2009-07-12 19:54:41

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

Here's my thoughts on the matter I posted on another thread about this.

OK, now for my speech.

Seriously, what is with these cats? I mean, I'm not trying to downsize what these artists do, they're good drawers, I can't draw nearly as well as they can, but the bad thing is how almost EVERY DAY, there's cats in all the slots in top loved and top downloaded. I'm sick of seeing furry animals everywhere, so for now, I'm just ignoring the front page, seeing as it'll probably be cats no matter what we can say or do.

Here's the current top viewed.
Top Viewed Lately

LA BOMBA! - Maki-Tak
by Maki-Tak

KAO DANCES TO N…
by kaotheroogoncreator

Make Pencil a face!
by Pepyoshi_me
See more


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#13 2009-07-12 20:12:34

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

why do people even do drawings on scratch?
its a waste of time
it would be way quicker to do it on paint


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#14 2009-07-12 20:46:51

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

I was thinking that Scratch should really have 2 different portals. One to see art, one to play games. Then, the two sides won't conflict. But would that really work?

Honestly, I'm not against cats, hamsters, anthros, etc. It's specific for me. With the undermined framework of the hamster society, I barely see activity from them anymore. They caused their own demise. For the cats... and the anthros... (and the rest...) if they don't overload the front page, I'm fine. As long as they tried their best at drawing and I only see an occasional project for them on the front page.

What fails is that I see projects that basically have no programming whatsoever. You want to see what is in these popular projects, go download them. I probably see the glide block or the change color block most of the time, and they have so few (and may I say extremely short) scripts. No, I don't want to see a toki on a pogo stick, a voice-acting with a b/w background, or a cat on a 480x360 screen in the middle of my page. If I can't play it, it's not that interesting. To make up for it, they better have some l33t-like programming and grandmaster animation skills at hand.

Really, do you want one of those things as what Scratch thinks is the best? No, I don't think so. At least for some of us... Probably there's more art freaks on Scratch than there are code freaks. COME ON. If you could compare Scratch to Flash, which you definitely cannot, then you could see how easy Scratch is to make a well-working game. If you cannot make a good game on Scratch, then you have a long way to go. Sorry, it's true.

There are so many views on the popular projects, that when I go to an awesome game, it has barely 10 views! LAME!

Okay. I'm not against cats, hamsters, and anthros.

I am against the flooding of the front page with projects that are not worthy for it.

Thank you, and have a nice day. Karra  smile


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#15 2009-07-12 20:49:31

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

It seems that everyone is complaining about this! I really don't find it that bothersome. Not everything is on the front page. After all, there are 600,000+ projects.


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#16 2009-07-12 20:51:25

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

yeah but the only thing that is on the front page is cat drawings
some of them are good but lots are bad


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#17 2009-07-12 20:54:07

Karra
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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

greenflash wrote:

It seems that everyone is complaining about this! I really don't find it that bothersome. Not everything is on the front page. After all, there are 600,000+ projects.

When you go to Scratch, it's the first thing you see. It also represents what Scratch users prefer over others.


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#18 2009-07-12 21:29:02

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

I join. Sure, I make animations, but I don't want them to get in the way of other great  projects. I would like more views on them, but not front page. Scratch was made for games in mind, not a picture of a cat.


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#19 2009-07-13 01:40:25

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

Sometimes I do wonder how some people get so popular. But scratch isn't about popularity. It's about programming. Usually featured projects are games, and unless the curators is part of one of the drawing/ animation groups, then you'll see good projects.

There is a topic like this in almost every section. If so many people are concerned, how come nobody seems to be taking notice. I sure am.

I don't think scrratch is being corupted by artists. You can find good games if you look hard enough


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#20 2009-07-13 01:43:34

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

thats the point
you gotta look hard to find good games but the horribly ugly and pointless junk is on the homepage. why dont they switch?


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#21 2009-07-13 02:01:58

greenflash
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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

Is this just a battle for the front page or all of scratch? Cuz i thought it was all of scratch... but then again, there are lots of randm things out in scratch...

I propose you make a gallery. Of all the really great games nobody has seen.


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#22 2009-07-13 21:50:52

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

I see where you come from, but going as far as to say "Go to an art site, we don't want you," is a little far. I took slight offense to this.
I did like the front page before this happened, because it was full of great games that could consume hours of one's time, but however the wind blows, you know?
What I'm saying is it runs in circles, the front page; the games will return, as will the drawings. Just be patient.

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#23 2009-07-13 23:21:16

greenflash
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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

Sometimes these art things can be helpful. You can request sprites...


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#24 2009-07-14 01:22:36

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

im pretty sure none of the cat drawers have any skill or patience to do pixel work, which are really the only sprites you need for games on scratch
i mean, if they werent pixel art, what would it be used for? more spam like the oyther cat art?


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#25 2009-07-14 01:25:02

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Re: Cats, Hamsters and Anthros protest

well, some people can do good art... I'm not justifying everything, but Half-Wolf Leader does requests which are pretty good. I don't know...

But why is everyone being so harsh? I mean really...


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