All4one wrote:
British dance-punk/new rave bands tomorrow and see if they fit in fine.
Why British? There were plenty of great "influential" dance-punk acts that were American or German or Brazillian or Canadian. Being British doesn't instantly make something more influential
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Sellout wrote:
All4one wrote:
British dance-punk/new rave bands tomorrow and see if they fit in fine.
Why British? There were plenty of great "influential" dance-punk acts that were American or German or Brazillian or Canadian. Being British doesn't instantly make something more influential
Because he's making a list of influential British rock songs?
"Junk Bond Trader" // Elliott Smith
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Sellout wrote:
All4one wrote:
Sellout wrote:
Why?Not that it's terrible, but it might stray too much from the rock feel the rest of the collection is promoting.
So dream pop and shoegaze are somehow more rock than dance punk?
I know some artists classified as dream pop that are most definitely not rock, but it is a subgenre of rock. I know shoegaze is rock. I would also consider most dance punk as rock.
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ProgrammingFreak wrote:
Sellout wrote:
All4one wrote:
Not that it's terrible, but it might stray too much from the rock feel the rest of the collection is promoting.So dream pop and shoegaze are somehow more rock than dance punk?
I know some artists classified as dream pop that are most definitely not rock, but it is a subgenre of rock. I know shoegaze is rock. I would also consider most dance punk as rock.
Dream pop is definitely less 'Rock' than the others.
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ProgrammingFreak wrote:
Sellout wrote:
All4one wrote:
Not that it's terrible, but it might stray too much from the rock feel the rest of the collection is promoting.So dream pop and shoegaze are somehow more rock than dance punk?
I know some artists classified as dream pop that are most definitely not rock, but it is a subgenre of rock. I know shoegaze is rock. I would also consider most dance punk as rock.
Example of dream pop != rock?
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veggieman wrote:
ProgrammingFreak wrote:
Sellout wrote:
So dream pop and shoegaze are somehow more rock than dance punk?I know some artists classified as dream pop that are most definitely not rock, but it is a subgenre of rock. I know shoegaze is rock. I would also consider most dance punk as rock.
Example of dream pop != rock?
Well pop has two meanings in music from my standpoint.
Popular music, which can include rock, dubstep, dance whatever
Poppy pop pop which is like those plastic chairs that are designed in italy/sweden and made in china. You know the ones are all shiny and outlandishly shaped.
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jji7skyline wrote:
veggieman wrote:
ProgrammingFreak wrote:
I know some artists classified as dream pop that are most definitely not rock, but it is a subgenre of rock. I know shoegaze is rock. I would also consider most dance punk as rock.Example of dream pop != rock?
Well pop has two meanings in music from my standpoint.
Popular music, which can include rock, dubstep, dance whatever
Poppy pop pop which is like those plastic chairs that are designed in italy/sweden and made in china. You know the ones are all shiny and outlandishly shaped.
That is irrelevant. "Dream pop" refers to a specific type of music and if you don't know what I'm talking about by that then you shouldn't interject with your opinions about it :T
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veggieman wrote:
jji7skyline wrote:
veggieman wrote:
Example of dream pop != rock?
Well pop has two meanings in music from my standpoint.
Popular music, which can include rock, dubstep, dance whatever
Poppy pop pop which is like those plastic chairs that are designed in italy/sweden and made in china. You know the ones are all shiny and outlandishly shaped.That is irrelevant. "Dream pop" refers to a specific type of music and if you don't know what I'm talking about by that then you shouldn't interject with your opinions about it :T
I know what dream pop is thank you very much, I'm just trying to explain why I don't consider it much of a rock sub-genre.
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jji7skyline wrote:
veggieman wrote:
jji7skyline wrote:
Well pop has two meanings in music from my standpoint.
Popular music, which can include rock, dubstep, dance whatever
Poppy pop pop which is like those plastic chairs that are designed in italy/sweden and made in china. You know the ones are all shiny and outlandishly shaped.That is irrelevant. "Dream pop" refers to a specific type of music and if you don't know what I'm talking about by that then you shouldn't interject with your opinions about it :T
I know what dream pop is thank you very much, I'm just trying to explain why I don't consider it much of a rock sub-genre.
But if you're just basing your arguments on the name, leading me to believe that you don't. Plus, as we can tell from Wikipedia, "Dream pop is a musical subgenre of pop rock and alternative rock." Neither of its origins is plain pop music, but it comes rather from pop rock, which is lighter and hookier than just plain rock.
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veggieman wrote:
ProgrammingFreak wrote:
Sellout wrote:
So dream pop and shoegaze are somehow more rock than dance punk?
I know some artists classified as dream pop that are most definitely not rock, but it is a subgenre of rock. I know shoegaze is rock. I would also consider most dance punk as rock.
Example of dream pop != rock?
Uh, Passion Pit with "emotional honesty with dream-pop"(wikipedia says they're indie rock?? they're not), Owl City with "dream-pop meteor shower", LIGHTS with "synthesized dream-pop", Ellie Goulding is classified as dream pop on wikipedia??
Also, those are what other people have said that I found with a quick search
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I was simply saying that I distinguish pop rock from poppy pop, and I classify dream pop as poppy pop, despite what Wikipedia may say.
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luiysia wrote:
lots of my sister's old 2ne1 songs
by old I mean from like 2010
Ancient.
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jji7skyline wrote:
despite what Wikipedia may say.
xD
Even though often unreliable, it's generally pretty reliable especially about different ways us humans have categorised our art. Unless something has been described as such by another source, such as a review, it's not included on the page; the genre descriptor there, as well is sourced from reviews & what the labeled bands sound like.
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Well, I found multiple reviews that were referring to the artists I stated above as 'dream pop'
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veggieman wrote:
jji7skyline wrote:
despite what Wikipedia may say.
xD
Even though often unreliable, it's generally pretty reliable especially about different ways us humans have categorised our art. Unless something has been described as such by another source, such as a review, it's not included on the page; the genre descriptor there, as well is sourced from reviews & what the labeled bands sound like.
I'm not saying it's unreliable, I get frustrated when my teachers say that. Just saying that sometimes it differs with my opinion
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Sellout wrote:
All4one wrote:
British dance-punk/new rave bands tomorrow and see if they fit in fine.
Why British? There were plenty of great "influential" dance-punk acts that were American or German or Brazillian or Canadian. Being British doesn't instantly make something more influential
it's a musical history of british music, clever clogs
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The Beatles, all day and all night!
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rugs wrote:
Sellout wrote:
All4one wrote:
British dance-punk/new rave bands tomorrow and see if they fit in fine.
Why British? There were plenty of great "influential" dance-punk acts that were American or German or Brazillian or Canadian. Being British doesn't instantly make something more influential
it's a musical history of british music, clever clogs
Clever clogs :3
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rugs wrote:
Sellout wrote:
All4one wrote:
British dance-punk/new rave bands tomorrow and see if they fit in fine.
Why British? There were plenty of great "influential" dance-punk acts that were American or German or Brazillian or Canadian. Being British doesn't instantly make something more influential
it's a musical history of british music, clever clogs
Why? It isn't like all music came out of Britain <_<
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Sellout wrote:
rugs wrote:
Sellout wrote:
Why British? There were plenty of great "influential" dance-punk acts that were American or German or Brazillian or Canadian. Being British doesn't instantly make something more influentialit's a musical history of british music, clever clogs
Why? It isn't like all music came out of Britain <_<
I know, and I'm going to make another compilation for bands from America, Australia, etc.
But this particular comp. is sort of like a love letter to Britain and its music.
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Sellout wrote:
rugs wrote:
Sellout wrote:
Why British? There were plenty of great "influential" dance-punk acts that were American or German or Brazillian or Canadian. Being British doesn't instantly make something more influentialit's a musical history of british music, clever clogs
Why? It isn't like all music came out of Britain <_<
beatles hurdur ur agruemtn is invlad
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stab yer dad // spoonboy
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The radio.
Some dubstep, but mainly rock 'n roll, like Led Zeppelin.
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All4one wrote:
Sellout wrote:
rugs wrote:
it's a musical history of british music, clever clogsWhy? It isn't like all music came out of Britain <_<
I know, and I'm going to make another compilation for bands from America, Australia, etc.
But this particular comp. is sort of like a love letter to Britain and its music.
I don't see the point in frankensteining-up beautiful music by nationality. Music isn't supposed to be about national borders or where you're from and sorting it by that makes no sense to me
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