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#7801 2013-04-10 13:08:05

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

*reads above post*
*brain dies to death*


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#7802 2013-04-10 13:24:18

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

So you could say that a predicate slot is a shortcut for the <THE <> BLOCK> block in the Boolean slot?

EDIT: Had an extra ? mark at the end of my sentence :I.

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#7803 2013-04-10 13:27:01

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mythbusteranimator wrote:

dies to death

tongue

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I'm loving my new monitor, by the way!  big_smile  Three vim windows side-by-side...

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#7804 2013-04-10 13:29:19

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

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Scratch and all its children

Now maybe that's how I should refer to "Scratch program or one of its derivatives"...


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#7805 2013-04-10 13:37:47

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blob8108 wrote:

bharvey wrote:

Scratch and all its children

Now maybe that's how I should refer to "Scratch program or one of its derivatives"...

Who's the mom? (or dad)


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#7806 2013-04-10 13:38:55

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

mythbusteranimator wrote:

blob8108 wrote:

bharvey wrote:

Scratch and all its children

Now maybe that's how I should refer to "Scratch program or one of its derivatives"...

Who's the mom? (or dad)

Scratch needs a spouse to have children?  tongue


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#7807 2013-04-10 14:51:56

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mythbusteranimator wrote:

Who's the mom? (or dad)

Smalltalk, or Javascript, or Flash, I suppose.


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#7808 2013-04-10 14:53:08

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

Who's the mom? (or dad)

Smalltalk, or Javascript, or Flash, I suppose.

I smell an inter-paradigm marriage coming along...


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#7809 2013-04-10 14:56:02

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DigiTechs wrote:

So you could say that a predicate slot is a shortcut for the <THE <> BLOCK> block in the Boolean slot?

Sort of, except that if you actually did put a THE BLOCK in a Boolean slot, the procedure would get confused, because it's expecting a true/false value and instead it's getting a block.

I'd rather say that a Boolean (unevaluated) slot is a shortcut for an invisible THE BLOCK in a Predicate slot!


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#7810 2013-04-10 15:05:47

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blob8108 wrote:

I smell an inter-paradigm marriage coming along...

[Humo(u)rous reference to topic banned on Scratch forum omitted.]


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#7811 2013-04-10 15:09:59

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blob8108 wrote:

new monitor

Either you have really long arms, or that picture was taken from a really strange angle!

I'm glad to see that your taste in window background colors is better than your taste in text editors.  tongue


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#7812 2013-04-10 15:42:51

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bharvey wrote:

[Humo(u)rous reference...]

Aw, that's no fair — now we have to guess! (Though I like the multicultural spelling...)

Either you have really long arms, or that picture was taken from a really strange angle!

Both?

I'm glad to see that your taste in window background colors is better than your taste in text editors.

I hate you.  tongue

(Though I might try Emacs again one day, if someone writes some vim keybindings in elisp...)

EDIT: excessive smileys

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#7813 2013-04-10 16:17:10

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Happy birthday, OS X/Growl users!


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#7814 2013-04-10 16:37:22

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blob8108 wrote:

(Though I might try Emacs again one day, if someone writes some vim keybindings in elisp...)

http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/VimMode

If the human mind can imagine it, someone has written it for Emacs.


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#7815 2013-04-10 16:47:03

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Jens wrote:

Sometimes you can also see their Latin counterparts

You see "binary" more often than "dyadic" in the computing literature.  The problem with the Latin names is that they ("binary" especially, but Turing machines count in unary) have a whole different meaning as names of number representations, which is why Ken Iverson started a movement to get computer scientists to use the "-adic" names.

And there's really no good alternative to "niladic."

(EDIT: ... even though "niladic" is a linguistic mongrel, since "nil" is Latin!)

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#7816 2013-04-10 17:48:54

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I knew that would be a thing.  tongue


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#7817 2013-04-10 19:13:32

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

You could also just post you project somewhere, I'd like to have a look at it, and nXIII would like to examine it, too.

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#7818 2013-04-10 20:33:35

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Today's crazy idea:

The Beauty and Joy of Computing team are planning a workshop for high school teachers this summer that will serve both teachers who are new to BJC and those who took our workshops in previous summers.  (If you're thinking "I'm not a teacher," keep reading.)  The way we'll serve both groups is this:

The workshop for new participants is six weeks, of which the first and last are face-to-face, with four weeks of taking our online course in the middle.  The plan for returning participants is that they'd come only to the last f2f week, so it'd be twice as big, might have parallel threads, and will be a prototype for a possible annual Snap! conference.

Now, what we're talking about so far is a conference for adults, like Scratch@MIT as opposed to Scratch Day.  But what if we had a kid thread too?  We don't have hundreds of thousands of Snap!pers, so a geographically distributed Snap! Day would (at least at this time) be silly.  But, umm, I just think it'd be fun to bring our gang together.

I know, it'd be expensive, and you all have summer plans already, but just the same...  We're talking about the week of July 29-Aug 2, in Raleigh, NC.  We can get dorm rooms for $20/night, one reason it's in NC rather than CA.  Maybe a week is too long and we'll get bored with nothing to do, and should think about picking one day as Snap! Day, but otoh the airfare doesn't seem so expensive if it's for a week instead of a day.  smile

If everyone were coming to Barcelona it'd be different, but hardly anyone can do that.

So, am I crazy or what?


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#7819 2013-04-10 21:05:08

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@bharvey That sounds fun, but it'd be pretty expensive, especially if I go to Barcelona.  hmm


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#7820 2013-04-10 23:18:47

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blob8108 wrote:

new monitor

Glad to see I'm not the only one with a nonretina MacBook Pro… I missed it by a month!

Happy Birthday

Now modify it to support notification center!

Doesn't it guzzle internet? I think a menubar app may be better (I can already see the stylized "S" character on my menu bar.)

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#7821 2013-04-10 23:20:15

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bharvey wrote:

I know, it'd be expensive, and you all have summer plans already, but just the same...  We're talking about the week of July 29-Aug 2, in Raleigh, NC.  We can get dorm rooms for $20/night, one reason it's in NC rather than CA.  Maybe a week is too long and we'll get bored with nothing to do, and should think about picking one day as Snap! Day, but otoh the airfare doesn't seem so expensive if it's for a week instead of a day.  smile

I already have one trip to the US sometime in May, so sorry.  sad


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#7822 2013-04-10 23:44:38

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Hardmath123 wrote:

I already have one trip to the US sometime in May

Wait, have we been through this and I've forgotten?  Will you be here before May 9 or after May 27?  Why oh why did you(r parents) have to pick the month I'm in Japan?


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#7823 2013-04-11 00:04:31

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Actually, the trip fits neatly between those two dates.


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#7824 2013-04-11 00:21:02

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Hardmath123 wrote:

Actually, the trip fits neatly between those two dates.

Man, you're going to be 90 years old before I finally meet you, at this rate.  sad
(Which will make me, what, 140 or so?)


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#7825 2013-04-11 02:46:49

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I bet I'll be in Berkeley at least once in the next 5-7 years…

EDIT: And there's a chance I make it into Sparc.  smile

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