Dear scratch.mit.edu,
Here are some things I would like you to do in the making of Scratch 2.0. Let's start with the most important one.
1. Do not change web layout or Scratchblock design. Please don't change the design for scratch.com. The 2.0 design you showed looks slightly cluttered and not as appealing as before. I know another popular website, (Khan Academy), that changed its layout to something similar. Now it seems I am going there less and less. Also, the new design of the Scratchblocks looks rather flat and slightly messy. I prefer you draw them the way it looked in v1.4. That version looks nicer.
Now I can move to my other suggestions.
2. Multiple text boxes. When using the text feature to make sprites or stages, you could only type text in one size, one font, one color and one place at a time. Could you please make it that you can add different places to type text on one stage/costume as well as be able to tilt text boxes? Also make it possible for us to be able to use multiple different fonts, colors, and sizes in the same text designation?
3. Viewing active scripts, one piece at a time. Here's an idea I'm fond of. Let me start by showing you a script for a sprite named "Stickman" in the best way I can.
when i receive [a cold v] say [I think I have a cold...] wait [2] secs switch to costume [blows nose v] play sound [loud sniffle v] until done switch to costume [weak feeling v] if <(belief) > [40]> say [I'm going to CVS for a remedy.] repeat [50] change x by [-15] end hide stop allWe know that in the previous version, when a script is active, it has a yellow outline around the whole script. But my idea is that the script should be outlined (not glowing like in the 2.0 preview) both all at once and each active scratchblock at a time. Here's how it works:
repeat until bored [blow up v] [alarm clock v] with <[bomb v] or [fire v] or [laser v] end (it) falls off [cliff v] <forever>I say it works like this: (Be sure to note that symbols like ~^` etc. are only to identify the blocks' form, and are not part of the wording on the block. So "~when i receive { }" would be known as the "when i receive" block, and "if < >|else" as "if/else".)
Last edited by LRGonzales (2013-04-23 17:25:43)
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It's scratch.mit.edu, not scratch.com. Just saying.
1- They will change, no matter what people say.
2- This can already be done in 2.0.
5- Blocks are used for people on Help with Scripts. People who add Blocks to talk/ spam are reported.
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1 - Support, but they'll still change anyway. I agree though - 1.4 looks more "Solid".
2 - Apparently already done.
3 - Would actually be really cool and helpful. Like Single step in 1.4. (Though I didn't read it all )
8 - I don't think the forum software and scratch link too well.
6 - Good idea! Though it might be confusing for new scratchers.
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1. No. It is actually nicer and has more features than they could comfortably add here.
Please don't threaten with quitting, either. NEVER has the ST even thought about making a decision because one user wanted it.
2. Totally support.
3. It would be waaayyy too fast, so it would be pretty much a blur...
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i dont understand #4... pressing the stop button/using the block can only stop active scripts anyway, since it stops those running... right?
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2. This is coming in 2.0
3. At least in the current version, you can do that. (Edit -> Set Single Stepping -> Flash blocks (Fast))
4. I think you can stop all scripts on a sprite in 2.0.
5. "blockspam" annoys me too, but the policy is if the blocks are related to the post at all, they're allowed.
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NoxSpooth wrote:
It's scratch.mit.edu, not scratch.com. Just saying.
1- They will change, no matter what people say.
2- This can already be done in 2.0.
5- Blocks are used for people on Help with Scripts. People who add Blocks to talk/ spam are reported.
Arrgh, too many people accuse me of Blockspamming! You Guys need a proper explaining (or at least how I think it works).
This is helping.
"This script will make your character walk right."
when [right arrow v] key pressed move [10] stepsThis is a joke that uses Scratchblocks.
~when i wake up play [Kirby's Epic Yarn v] for (who knows?) hours realize [you missed Barney and Friends on tv v] play sound [WT^ BOOM] explooooooooode!!!This is an embellishment.
say [Until next time!] for [2] secs end scriptTHIS is Blockspamming.
say [i liek nyan cat] its funAlso the rest of your critique wasn't very uplifting. Be more optimistic! Maybe if various people say they want it to be that way, Scratch.mit.edu will keep the web layout.
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Hyperbola wrote:
1 - Support, but they'll still change anyway. I agree though - 1.4 looks more "Solid".
2 - Apparently already done.
3 - Would actually be really cool and helpful. Like Single step in 1.4. (Though I didn't read it all )
8 - I don't think the forum software and scratch link too well.
6 - Good idea! Though it might be confusing for new scratchers.
What's confusing about different speech bubbles? If it were confusing, then Scratch wouldn't have created the "think [ ]" block.
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LRGonzales wrote:
This is helping.
"This script will make your character walk right."when [right arrow v] key pressed move [10] steps
Agreed.
This is a joke that uses Scratchblocks.
~when i wake up play [Kirby's Epic Yarn v] for (who knows?) hours realize [you missed Barney and Friends on tv v] play sound [WT^ BOOM] explooooooooode!!!
That's still blockspam. The worst kind of it.
This is an embellishment.
say [Until next time!] for [2] secs end script
That also counts as blockspam.
Also the rest of your critique wasn't very uplifting. Be more optimistic! Maybe if various people say they want it to be that way, Scratch.mit.edu will keep the web layout.
But more people is saying that they want to change. And the Scratch Team worked a lot to make 2.0. They're improving the website, making it more modern.
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LRGonzales wrote:
Hyperbola wrote:
1 - Support, but they'll still change anyway. I agree though - 1.4 looks more "Solid".
2 - Apparently already done.
3 - Would actually be really cool and helpful. Like Single step in 1.4. (Though I didn't read it all )
8 - I don't think the forum software and scratch link too well.
6 - Good idea! Though it might be confusing for new scratchers.What's confusing about different speech bubbles? If it were confusing, then Scratch wouldn't have created the "think [ ]" block.
Oh, that makes sense. I had just thought new scratchers would be intimidated by a huge list of speech bubbles.
NoxSpooth wrote:
LRGonzales wrote:
This is helping.
"This script will make your character walk right."when [right arrow v] key pressed move [10] stepsAgreed.
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This is a joke that uses Scratchblocks.
~when i wake up play [Kirby's Epic Yarn v] for (who knows?) hours realize [you missed Barney and Friends on tv v] play sound [WT^ BOOM] explooooooooode!!!That's still blockspam. The worst kind of it.
If it's not in the testing area, or it's kinda off topic.
This is an embellishment.
say [Until next time!] for [2] secs end scriptThat also counts as blockspam.
But is usually not deleted as being spam.
Actually I think this is the worst kind of blockspam:
iawjrboai abaioubo say [wiabueaomiurba]
Also the rest of your critique wasn't very uplifting. Be more optimistic! Maybe if various people say they want it to be that way, Scratch.mit.edu will keep the web layout.
Yes, but sadly, no
But more people is saying that they want to change. And the Scratch Team worked a lot to make 2.0. They're improving the website, making it more modern.
I feel 1.4 looks more modern than 2.0. Not is more modern. Looks. Which is still important.
Gtg, editing in a few weeks.
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NoxSpooth wrote:
LRGonzales wrote:
This is helping.
"This script will make your character walk right."when [right arrow v] key pressed move [10] stepsAgreed.
This is a joke that uses Scratchblocks.
~when i wake up play [Kirby's Epic Yarn v] for (who knows?) hours realize [you missed Barney and Friends on tv v] play sound [WT^ BOOM] explooooooooode!!!That's still blockspam. The worst kind of it.
No, it's supposed to be a joke that uses Scratchblocks!
This is an embellishment.
say [Until next time!] for [2] secs end scriptThat also counts as blockspam.
I thought it would be cute because it uses scratchblocks!
Also the rest of your critique wasn't very uplifting. Be more optimistic! Maybe if various people say they want it to be that way, Scratch.mit.edu will keep the web layout.
But more people is saying that they want to change. And the Scratch Team worked a lot to make 2.0.
You're thinking on the wrong side of the bed STILL!
They're improving the website, making it more modern.
If "modern" means "caved in", then I can agree with that!
You should see what Hyperbola has to say about this conversation!
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There's something you need to know...
LRGonzales wrote:
This is a joke that uses Scratchblocks.
~when i wake up play [Kirby's Epic Yarn v] for (who knows?) hours realize [you missed Barney and Friends on tv v] play sound [WT^ BOOM] explooooooooode!!!
That wasn't supposed to be the name of a meme explosion that most people know with the letter that stands for an explicit word replaced with a symbol. It's the early name for a replacement for the SFX. I wanted to figure something more appropriate for small ones. It's meant to be pronounced "Witty!?"
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LRGonzales wrote:
There's something you need to know...
LRGonzales wrote:
This is a joke that uses Scratchblocks.
~when i wake up play [Kirby's Epic Yarn v] for (who knows?) hours realize [you missed Barney and Friends on tv v] play sound [WT^ BOOM] explooooooooode!!!That wasn't supposed to be the name of a meme explosion that most people know with the letter that stands for an explicit word replaced with a symbol. It's the early name for a replacement for the SFX. I wanted to figure something more appropriate for small ones. It's meant to be pronounced "Witty!?"
Uh... I never said that it was explicit...
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NoxSpooth wrote:
But that "joke" is spam.
And 1.4 is going to go, no matter what you say. Just deal with it.
Oh no...
Who can save me from nobody agreeing with my ideas?
And don't answer with "no one". >
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LRGonzales wrote:
NoxSpooth wrote:
But that "joke" is spam.
And 1.4 is going to go, no matter what you say. Just deal with it.Oh no...
Who can save me from nobody agreeing with my ideas?
And don't answer with "no one". >
Hm, you're not alone. As you said previously, there are other people who prefer 1.4. I really like this version, but I can't do anything about that. 2.0 is going to replace it.
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NoxSpooth wrote:
LRGonzales wrote:
NoxSpooth wrote:
But that "joke" is spam.
And 1.4 is going to go, no matter what you say. Just deal with it.Oh no...
Who can save me from nobody agreeing with my ideas?
And don't answer with "no one". >Hm, you're not alone. As you said previously, there are other people who prefer 1.4. I really like this version, but I can't do anything about that. 2.0 is going to replace it.
But how do you know there's some sort of force that prevents scratch.mit.edu from keeping the layout?
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LRGonzales wrote:
NoxSpooth wrote:
LRGonzales wrote:
Oh no...
Who can save me from nobody agreeing with my ideas?
And don't answer with "no one". >Hm, you're not alone. As you said previously, there are other people who prefer 1.4. I really like this version, but I can't do anything about that. 2.0 is going to replace it.
But how do you know there's some sort of force that prevents scratch.mit.edu from keeping the layout?
Because they worked really hard to make 2.0 (including the layout), I don't think they'll throw it away.
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LRGonzales wrote:
NoxSpooth wrote:
LRGonzales wrote:
This is helping.
"This script will make your character walk right."when [right arrow v] key pressed move [10] stepsAgreed.
This is a joke that uses Scratchblocks.
~when i wake up play [Kirby's Epic Yarn v] for (who knows?) hours realize [you missed Barney and Friends on tv v] play sound [WT^ BOOM] explooooooooode!!!That's still blockspam. The worst kind of it.
No, it's supposed to be a joke that uses Scratchblocks!
Actually, it is perfectly fine if it isn't spammed randomly like here. If one posted that say, in the testing thread, it'd be alright. I don't know if a scratchblocks joke thread is allowed though.
LR wrote:
This is an embellishment.
say [Until next time!] for [2] secs end scriptThat also counts as blockspam.
I thought it would be cute because it uses scratchblocks!
It is [kinda cute], and I've seen people do it and not get reported as spam. Like
say [Thanks for helping!]
Also the rest of your critique wasn't very uplifting. Be more optimistic! Maybe if various people say they want it to be that way, Scratch.mit.edu will keep the web layout.
But more people is saying that they want to change. And the Scratch Team worked a lot to make 2.0.
You're thinking on the wrong side of the bed STILL!
They're improving the website, making it more modern.
If "modern" means "caved in", then I can agree with that!
Yes...! A simple app generally looks like some shapes put together, without much care for good boundaries or looks. A more complex one get's everything good to the pixel (or in games like captain forever, to the lines). What does 1.4 feel like? Now think about 2.0. You can see how 1.4 looks better.
At least a "Switch to old look" button would be good.
You should see what Hyperbola has to say about this conversation!
Um... Yes?
NoxSpooth wrote:
But that "joke" is spam.
And 1.4 is going to go, no matter what you say. Just deal with it.
The joke's not spam if you put it in the testing thread.
LRGonzales wrote:
NoxSpooth wrote:
But that "joke" is spam.
And 1.4 is going to go, no matter what you say. Just deal with it.Oh no...
Who can save me from nobody agreeing with my ideas?
And don't answer with "no one". >
Hi!
NoxSpooth wrote:
LRGonzales wrote:
NoxSpooth wrote:
But that "joke" is spam.
And 1.4 is going to go, no matter what you say. Just deal with it.Oh no...
Who can save me from nobody agreeing with my ideas?
And don't answer with "no one". >Hm, you're not alone. As you said previously, there are other people who prefer 1.4. I really like this version, but I can't do anything about that. 2.0 is going to replace it.
"Switch to old looks button"
I should go suggest that.
LRGonzales wrote:
NoxSpooth wrote:
LRGonzales wrote:
Oh no...
Who can save me from nobody agreeing with my ideas?
And don't answer with "no one". >Hm, you're not alone. As you said previously, there are other people who prefer 1.4. I really like this version, but I can't do anything about that. 2.0 is going to replace it.
But how do you know there's some sort of force that prevents scratch.mit.edu from keeping the layout?
There isn't
Why am I going against BLU_Spy
He's known as an awesome scratcher
Lemme go make a poll.
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When using Scratchblocks:
Posts inside the testing area are fine as long as you're testing. (although it probably won't get removed if your playing around, a mod might say something)
They should only be used to show scripts such as when asking for help or giving help.
You should not need Scratchblocks any other time. Even if it is "cute".
I cannot address most of your suggestions right now but I will try later.
But for 1:
The Scratch Team has worked hard to design the new layout. Reverting not only wastes the work they have done, but also will disappoint some people, and it will also cut out on the new features. Such as the news sections.
For 6, if you really wanted your own custom speech bubbles, you could just draw them and put your text in or something. If you really wanted to make a good project in Scratch you probably shouldn't use any of the built in graphics, perhaps beside the numbers/text.
Or to show yelling you could just use an exclamation mark.
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kayybee wrote:
For 6, if you really wanted your own custom speech bubbles, you could just draw them and put your text in or something.
Try to make a sprite consistently say some random gibberish (like "eiovsju aoiu taoiviojaw") correctly in a zigzag speech bubble. Nope, you can't do it.
I think that custom bubbles would actually encourage creativity by allowing more things to do in an animation.
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Hyperbola wrote:
kayybee wrote:
For 6, if you really wanted your own custom speech bubbles, you could just draw them and put your text in or something.
Try to make a sprite consistently say some random gibberish (like "eiovsju aoiu taoiviojaw") correctly in a zigzag speech bubble. Nope, you can't do it.
I think that custom bubbles would actually encourage creativity by allowing more things to do in an animation.
So you make a speech bubble for each line.
I mean like, the current speech bubbles are so inconvenient.
They're automatically sized and placed and cover like everything important on your screen.
Like the other character.
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Make a speech bubble say something random as in high information entropy. Not two different bubbles. Like saying a random number between 1 and 1000000?
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NoxSpooth wrote:
But that "joke" is spam.
And 1.4 is going to go, no matter what you say. Just deal with it.
That isn't going to change scratch 1.4 fan's feelings.
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joshuaho wrote:
NoxSpooth wrote:
But that "joke" is spam.
And 1.4 is going to go, no matter what you say. Just deal with it.That isn't going to change scratch 1.4 fan's feelings.
Sadly, you're right. I know that some people (like me) will miss the 1.4 website. But life is like that...
Helen Keller wrote:
When one door of happiness closes, another opens, but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one that has been opened for us.
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